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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] FW: Nonsense words
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com)
Wed Feb 25 09:04:37 2015
From: lojmitti7wi7nuv@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:04:17 -0500
In-Reply-To: <005b01d050af$093c9ad0$1bb5d070$@flyingstart.ca>
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wa=92maH cha=92 jar ghaj wa=92 DIS. jar =91ar ghaj tlhIngan DIS? =
maSovbe=92.
lojmIt tI=92wI=92 nuv =91utlh
Retired Door Repair Guy
> On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca> =
wrote:
>=20
> Perfect. That=92s just what I was hoping: it=92s the name of a =
*particular* month=97in a particular culture on a particular planet. So =
I don=92t have to disprove it.
>=20
> Now if everyone, of any ability, would write me a few Klingon =
sentences whose English translation contains the word =93month=94 or =
=93season=94 we can retrain it. Don=92t stretch yourself. Write within =
your ability. E-mail to me, include the English translation and then I =
will post the list for us to typo check.
> =20
> - Qov
> =20
> From: Felix Malmenbeck [mailto:felixm@kth.se]=20
> Sent: February 24, 2015 15:19
>=20
> > Maktag=20
> >maqtagh: a klingon month or season (n) [=46rom "New Ground" (TNG). At =
least 43 days long.]
> =20
> >Is anyone familiar enough with this TNG novel to know whether
> > maqtagh was supposed to be a particular season, analogous
> > perhaps to =93monsoon=94 or =93spring=94 or a generic word for a
> > seasonal time period?
> =20
> Not a novel, actually, but an episode.
> =20
> Alexander Rozhenko, son of Worf, was born on the 43rd day of Maktag. =
It's not specified if it's a month or a season.
> =20
> The book Excelsior: Forged in Fire treats it as a month.
> (It also treats Klingon years as being precisely the same length as =
Earth years, which flies in the face of Star Trek canon.)
> =20
> From: Robyn Stewart <robyn@flyingstart.ca =
<mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca>>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2015 00:07
> To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list
> Subject: [Tlhingan-hol] FW: Nonsense words
> =20
> =46rom a conversation with my primary contact on the Microsoft Bing =
team.=20
> ---
> I found this online =
(http://www.angelfire.com/md/startrekkie1701/klindic.html =
<http://www.angelfire.com/md/startrekkie1701/klindic.html> -- careful, =
this site seems weird and may contain malware)
> Maktag=20
> maqtagh: a klingon month or season (n) [=46rom "New Ground" (TNG). At =
least 43 days long.]
> =20
> Somehow the wrong spelling of Maktag made it into a training text =
file, where I can see
> =20
> maqtagh =E0 month
> maqtagh =E0 season
> =20
> i.e. possibly someone originally found the site above and added words =
/ sentences to one of the training files.
> =20
> And so the engine learned that.
> We have to remove and retrain.
> We have an efficient way to change bad translation, but not a good way =
to =91remove=92 words or phrases altogether..=20
> ..what I can do easily (we do these once a week) is to replace the =
wrong translation from English to Klingon.
> i.e. =93month=94 and =93season=94 right now translate to =93maqtagh=94..=
what would be a better translation for =93season=94?
> ---
> Some well-meaning individual has managed to add Angelfire to our =
learning files, and like glitter in the carpet, it will be everywhere =
unless we can pick it out grain by grain. Is anyone familiar enough =
with this TNG novel to know whether maqtagh was supposed to be a =
particular season, analogous perhaps to =93monsoon=94 or =93spring=94 or =
a generic word for a seasonal time period? =20
>=20
> - Qov
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lojmIt tI=92wI=92 nuv =91utlh<div class=3D"">Retired Door Repair =
Guy</div>
</div>
<br class=3D""><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Robyn Stewart <<a =
href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca" =
class=3D"">robyn@flyingstart.ca</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"WordSection1" style=3D"page: WordSection1; font-family: =
Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; =
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, =
255);"><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Perfect. That=92s just what I was hoping: =
it=92s the name of a *<b class=3D"">particular</b>* month=97in a =
particular culture on a particular planet. So I don=92t have to disprove =
it.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Now if everyone, of any ability, would =
write me a few Klingon sentences whose English translation =
contains the word =93month=94 or =93season=94 we can retrain it. Don=92t =
stretch yourself. Write within your ability. E-mail to me, include the =
English translation and then I will post the list for us to typo =
check.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">- =
Qov<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=3D""><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Felix Malmenbeck [<a =
href=3D"mailto:felixm@kth.se" class=3D"">mailto:felixm@kth.se</a>]<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>February 24, 2015 15:19<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">> =
Maktag<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">>maqtagh: a klingon =
month or season (n) [=46rom "New Ground" (TNG). At least 43 days =
long.]</span><span style=3D"" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""> </span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);" class=3D"">>Is anyone familiar enough with this TNG novel =
to know whether</span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">> maqtagh was =
supposed to be a particular season, analogous</span><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, =
73, 125);" class=3D"">> perhaps to =93monsoon=94 or =93spring=94 or a =
generic word for a</span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">> seasonal =
time period?</span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""> </span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">Not a novel, =
actually, but an episode.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif;" class=3D""> </span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm =
0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Alexander Rozhenko, son of Worf, was born on the 43rd day of =
Maktag. It's not specified if it's a month or a season.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""> </span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">The book =
Excelsior: Forged in Fire treats it as a month.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">(It also treats =
Klingon years as being precisely the same length as Earth years, which =
flies in the face of Star Trek canon.)<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""> </span></div><div class=3D""><div class=3D"MsoNormal" =
align=3D"center" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: center;"><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" =
class=3D""><hr size=3D"2" width=3D"98%" align=3D"center" =
class=3D""></span></div><div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">From:</span></b><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Robyn =
Stewart <<a href=3D"mailto:robyn@flyingstart.ca" style=3D"color: =
rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">robyn@flyingstart.ca</a>><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Wednesday, February 25, =
2015 00:07<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>tlhIngan Hol mailing =
list<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>[Tlhingan-hol] FW: Nonsense =
words</span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" =
class=3D""> <o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">=46rom a conversation with my primary =
contact on the Microsoft Bing team.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">---</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">I found this =
online (<a =
href=3D"http://www.angelfire.com/md/startrekkie1701/klindic.html" =
style=3D"color: rgb(149, 79, 114); text-decoration: underline;" =
class=3D"">http://www.angelfire.com/md/startrekkie1701/klindic.html</a><sp=
an class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>-- careful, this site =
seems weird and may contain malware)</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, =
33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">Maktag<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">maqtagh: a klingon month or season (n) [=46rom "New Ground" =
(TNG). At least 43 days long.]</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, =
33);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', =
serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D""> </span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Somehow the =
wrong spelling of Maktag made it into a training text file, where I can =
see</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span><span =
style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">maqtagh &n=
bsp; <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);" class=3D"">=E0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D""> =
month</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">maqtagh &n=
bsp; <span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Wingdings; color: rgb(31, 73, =
125);" class=3D"">=E0</span><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D""> =
season</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D""> </span><span =
style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">i.e. possibly someone =
originally found the site above and added words / sentences to one of =
the training files.</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D""> </span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">And so the =
engine learned that.</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">We have to =
remove and retrain.</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm =
0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" =
class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">We have an =
efficient way to change bad translation, but not a good way to =91remove=92=
words or phrases altogether..<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style=3D"color: =
rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times =
New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" =
class=3D"">..what I can do easily (we do these once a week) is to =
replace the wrong translation from English to Klingon.</span><span =
style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></span></div><div style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=3D""><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">i.e. =93month=94 and =
=93season=94 right now translate to =93maqtagh=94.. what would be a =
better translation for =93season=94?</span><span style=3D"color: rgb(33, =
33, 33);" class=3D""><o:p class=3D""></o:p></span></div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span lang=3D"EN-US" =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: =
rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">---<br class=3D""></span><span =
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=3D"">Some =
well-meaning individual has managed to add Angelfire to our learning =
files, and like glitter in the carpet, it will be everywhere unless we =
can pick it out grain by grain. Is anyone familiar enough with =
this TNG novel to know whether maqtagh was supposed to be a particular =
season, analogous perhaps to =93monsoon=94 or =93spring=94 or a generic =
word for a seasonal time period? </span><span style=3D"color: =
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