[100285] in tlhIngan-Hol
[Tlhingan-hol] FW: Nonsense words
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robyn Stewart)
Tue Feb 24 18:07:47 2015
From: "Robyn Stewart" <robyn@flyingstart.ca>
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Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 15:07:20 -0800
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From a conversation with my primary contact on the Microsoft Bing team.=20
---
I found this online
(http://www.angelfire.com/md/startrekkie1701/klindic.html -- careful, =
this
site seems weird and may contain malware)
Maktag=20
maqtagh: a klingon month or season (n) [From "New Ground" (TNG). At =
least 43
days long.]
=20
Somehow the wrong spelling of Maktag made it into a training text file,
where I can see
=20
maqtagh =E0 month
maqtagh =E0 season
=20
i.e. possibly someone originally found the site above and added words /
sentences to one of the training files.
=20
And so the engine learned that.
We have to remove and retrain.
We have an efficient way to change bad translation, but not a good way =
to
=91remove=92 words or phrases altogether..=20
..what I can do easily (we do these once a week) is to replace the wrong
translation from English to Klingon.
i.e. =93month=94 and =93season=94 right now translate to =93maqtagh=94.. =
what would be a
better translation for =93season=94?
---
Some well-meaning individual has managed to add Angelfire to our =
learning
files, and like glitter in the carpet, it will be everywhere unless we =
can
pick it out grain by grain. Is anyone familiar enough with this TNG =
novel
to know whether maqtagh was supposed to be a particular season, =
analogous
perhaps to =93monsoon=94 or =93spring=94 or a generic word for a =
seasonal time
period? =20
- Qov
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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D'>From a conversation with my primary contact on the Microsoft Bing =
team. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>---<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I found this online (<a =
href=3D"http://www.angelfire.com/md/startrekkie1701/klindic.html">http://=
www.angelfire.com/md/startrekkie1701/klindic.html</a> -- careful, this =
site seems weird and may contain malware)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Maktag <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>maqtagh: a klingon month or season (n) [From "New Ground" =
(TNG). At least 43 days long.]<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Somehow the wrong spelling of Maktag made it into a training text =
file, where I can see<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>maqtagh &nb=
sp; </span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>=E0</span>=
<span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> =
month<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>maqtagh &nb=
sp; </span><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>=E0</span>=
<span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'> =
season<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>i.e. possibly someone originally found the site above and added words =
/ sentences to one of the training files.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>And so the engine learned that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>We have to remove and retrain.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>We have an efficient way to change bad translation, but not a good =
way to ‘remove’ words or phrases altogether.. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>..what I can do easily (we do these once a week) is to replace the =
wrong translation from English to Klingon.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>i.e. “month” and “season” right now translate =
to “maqtagh”.. what would be a better translation for =
“season”?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>---<br></span><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Some =
well-meaning individual has managed to add Angelfire to our learning =
files, and like glitter in the carpet, it will be everywhere unless we =
can pick it out grain by grain.=A0 Is anyone familiar enough with this =
TNG novel to know whether maqtagh was supposed to be a particular =
season, analogous perhaps to “monsoon” or =
“spring” or a generic word for a seasonal time period? =
=A0<br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>- Qov<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>
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