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Re: [Tlhingan-hol] how to show entries without canon English
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (lojmIt tI'wI' nuv)
Wed Dec 24 07:11:25 2014
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As for whether or not to list {rop'a'} as "plague" or just consider it an ob=
vious derivative of {rop}, {ghojmoH} is an obvious derivative of {ghoj}, but=
without listing it, you might have trouble looking up "teach".=20
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> On Dec 22, 2014, at 9:44 AM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com> wrote:
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> In the spirit of that last discussion about slang, how should entries wher=
e the English definition isn't canon, but the Klingon word comes from Okrand=
, be shown in word lists?
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> By far, most words are found in the word list sections of TKD and KGT. Som=
e are revealed in HolQeD, at qep'a'/qepHom, or on this mailing list, but alm=
ost always the Klingon word is given an English definition or gloss.
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> However, there are a few where we've had to infer their meanings from thei=
r usage. For example, many of the new words revealed in Klingon Monopoly fal=
l into this category.
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> We can be fairly certain that {ngay'} means "glory", and {ghay} means some=
thing like "spray" or "bombard", and we've had long discussions about {vey},=
{'aplo'}, and {qoSta'}. But I think we're less clear on {vabDot} and {Qej} (=
at least, I am). And what about constructs like {rop'a'} "plague", do you ha=
ve a separate entry for it, or do you consider it an obvious derivate of {ro=
p}?
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> For those of you keeping word lists, do you just give your own English def=
initions of these words? Is it marked somehow?
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> De'vID
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>As for whether or not to list {rop'a'} as "plague" or just consider it an obvious derivative of {rop}, {ghojmoH} is an obvious derivative of {ghoj}, but without listing it, you might have trouble looking up "teach". <br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Dec 22, 2014, at 9:44 AM, De'vID <<a href="mailto:de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com">de.vid.jonpin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr"><br>
In the spirit of that last discussion about slang, how should entries where the English definition isn't canon, but the Klingon word comes from Okrand, be shown in word lists?</p>
<p dir="ltr">By far, most words are found in the word list sections of TKD and KGT. Some are revealed in HolQeD, at qep'a'/qepHom, or on this mailing list, but almost always the Klingon word is given an English definition or gloss.</p>
<p dir="ltr">However, there are a few where we've had to infer their meanings from their usage. For example, many of the new words revealed in Klingon Monopoly fall into this category.</p>
<p dir="ltr">We can be fairly certain that {ngay'} means "glory", and {ghay} means something like "spray" or "bombard", and we've had long discussions about {vey}, {'aplo'}, and {qoSta'}. But I think we're less clear on {vabDot} and {Qej} (at least, I am). And what about constructs like {rop'a'} "plague", do you have a separate entry for it, or do you consider it an obvious derivate of {rop}?</p>
<p dir="ltr">For those of you keeping word lists, do you just give your own English definitions of these words? Is it marked somehow?</p>
<p dir="ltr">-- <br>
De'vID</p>
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