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Re: A newbie question

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon Shoberg)
Sat Nov 14 12:38:24 1998

Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:39:30 -0500
From: Jon Shoberg <jshoberg@cbd.net>
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> I purchased an 8.4 gig Maxtor DiamondMax EIDE HD today, I want to
> install it and divide into 4 fairly equal pieces.

SWEET !! I'll need a bigger drive soon
 
> Part 1 or C drive:  will be my DOS/Win95 part.  I will still keep this
> as it will take me a while to learn and understand Linux and my son also
> 
> wants it so he can run his games.  From what I have read Drive C has to
> be for Win95.  And I am hoping this can be a Novell Client as well.

Yeah, keep W95 around.  Linux can definately be an uphill battle to
learn when you'r coming from another OS such as windows.  At least
that's my experience.  Once you figureout the basics, linux is pretty
cool ! :)
 

> So my question is:  If I can partition part 3 under DOS (even though
> this will be for Linux), then I can go ahead and install my new HD and
> start getting all this set up.

To the best of my knowledge, no. Linux needs its own partitioning type.

> Otherwise I do not know how I will differentiate between the portion I
> need to leave unformatted for Novell Netware and the partition I want
> for Linux.  I understand that Linux cannot be on the slave drive.  I was
> going to do this originally and put the Linux on my other hard drive
> (the 2.1 gig one)
> but from what I am reading this will not be accessible on boot-up as
> this will be installed on the secondary IDE.  My CD-Rom is an IDE drive
> and is my IDE slave.

Linux is best installed on its own physical drive.  I tried splitting a
larger drive and it just did not want to comfortably work.  

My dos drive is a primary master IDE, my linux drive is the secondary
slave, and my cdrom drive is the secondary master.  I believe these
settings should be controlled by the bios.  Linux will install a "linux
loader" to the master boot record on the primary master ide hard drive
and will promt you to load linix, dos, or whatever.  I'm not sure how
Novell Netware works with repect to the boot process.  Anyways, when the
Pc starts to boot a OS, I get a prompt that simply allows me to select
dos or linux.

I'm not trying to be insulting if you already know this, hope it answers
your question and someone do correct me if I'm wrong on any of this.
 
> If I do have to fdisk and format it a little differently so Linux will
> recognize this is there a special utility for this? If so, I will need
> to find this utility as I do not have my Linux CD yet.  Since I do not
> expect it until December, I do not want to wait that long to install
> this new HD.

I believe you'll want to use LILO, what I mentioned above.
 
> Can you help?  Most of the information I have read is very good but
> assumes running Windows and Linux.  I am also putting Novell in the
> equation and I am unsure if this will change anything.   And I have
> another computer on my "Network" as well.  It is my older computer with
> a much smaller HD and currently runs Windows 95.

I'm not sure what the Novell exactly thwos into the equation.  From what
I've read and experienced, make sure Linux is that last thing loaded. 
Once you get online there are just fantastic resources for almost
anything you want to do. IMO, some of them are TOO robust and a case of
'information overload' for a newbie user.  I wish someone told me to go
get a copy of xisp ranther than hacking through all of the ppp howto. 
However, its probably better to learn how functions are integrated into
the OS than getting a simple progie to do the job.
 
> Or perhaps someone can direct me to a book or a site where I can get
> more information.

www.linuxos.org is a good one.  I orderd my copy of RH5.1 from
www.lsl.com and it was here in something like 3 days.  I HAD TO pickup a
book.  Reading a manual helped me under stand more of the linuc basics. 
I got a copy of 'Lunux: Unleashed" 3rd edition.  It was one of the only
books at the time I could find, specific ro RH5.1.  Its pretty decent,
jumps around a little bit on the topics and really isn't too specific to
the installation process.  It also comes with RH5.1 on CD.  Not trying
to plug one specific book. Its jsut the one I used and isn't too bad. 
By now I'm sure there are a lot of other erally good ones avail.
 
> Thanks
> Betty


good luck,

jon


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