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Re: Thats it...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (jason salopek)
Mon Nov 25 12:11:00 1996
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:49:01 -0500 (EST)
From: jason salopek <salopekj@ccbc.pgh.net>
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BRAVO! BRAVO!
EXCUSE ME WHILE i WIPE BACK THE TEARS
:_)
Jason Salopek
"Fishhead"
On Mon, 25 Nov 1996, Mike Wangsmo wrote:
> I don't know who started and contributed to this thread, as I usually
> do not follow these WORTHLESS threads, however.... I have had it with
> you whiny babies about *support*!!!!!
>
> <<< MOST STUFF SNIPPED >>>
>
> > > I conquer, I also have sent some requests to RedHat, with no response,
> > > they acknowlaged my request, and I recieved no reply. I'm just luck I
> > > have this chat group and my technical staff, or I would be doomed.
>
> I have been on this list for a very long time and I have seen
> unbeliveablly stupid questions answered time and again, most of those
> answers have a ****@redhat.com address attached to them. As far as I
> know, Redhat has been one of the champions of moving Linux from the
> stages of use at your own risk via anonymous ftp to a full fledge,
> commercially supported product. And I do mean supported!! I have
> corresponded many times with Donnie and he has always given fast, acurate
> answers to problems. I don't know what else you want for support? I
> suppose maybe you you all prefer Microsoft's version of support. Call a
> toll free number spend half an hour getting switched from one electronic
> operator to the next. Finally you *may* get somebody with access to a
> database terminal to try and lead you through your own problem. If you
> are not willing to suffer that, then you can call Uncle Bill's $35
> hotline (1-900-......) and then you get right through and get a very
> competent person to solve your problem, but you spent an additional $35
> on top of purchasing your OS.
>
> I can't imagine any question that you could ask and NOT get a rapid reply
> via this list!!!! Redhat pays money to operate this list (and the others
> that they have) as well as support some of their employees to monitor and
> participate (ie. Donnie Barnes). What else do you want????? Any
> form of UNIX requires some level of computational profficiency to install
> and maintain. Remember that as the installer and maintainer of a full
> fledged UNIX system you are a SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR, not an end user. I
> have found that about 75% of the questions asked on this list are found
> in printed form via either books on Linux (which every Linux user should
> have several of), FAQ's which appearantly most choose to NOT look at for
> help, or in the archives of this list. Anybody remember how many folks
> asked about broken flock() emulation when 1.3.78 came out? It seemed to
> go on and on and on and... Why???? Because people refused to READ
> README's, FAQ's, etc. etc. etc.
>
> I have found that Redhat's setup, installation, and maintence for Linux
> to be the best availible for folks that aren't terribly familiar with
> UNIX. I suppose that is why Caldera adopted their platform instead of
> developing their own.
>
> The short of all of this is the following:::
>
> WE SHOULD ALL APPLAUDE REDHAT'S EFFORTS TO MAKE LINUX COMMERCIALLY
> VIABLE! Without the drive to get commercial money involved, Linux would
> still be somewhat obscure. Most likely the most significant thing to
> come from it then would be Linus' thesis.
>
> Just my $0.02 worth.
> Mike
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
> Mike Wangsmo, Graduate Student wanger@fubar.cs.montana.edu
> Montana State University http://www.cs.montana.edu/~wanger
> 602 Peter Koch (406) 586-0690
> Bozeman, MT 59715
>
> "May the Force be with you, always"
>
>
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