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Re: LILO Security problem

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Duquette)
Thu Dec 3 18:53:49 1998

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In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 03 Dec 1998 08:24:33 -0900."
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 16:48:34 -0500
From: John Duquette <jduquette@icsa.net>
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> Ivan Scagnetto wrote:
> 
> >  typing "single" after "linux"
> > (or whatever label you have chosen to identify Linux OS) at the LILO
> > promt everyone can access as root to the system without a password
> > prompt!!!
> > I cannot believe that there is a sysadmin that would allow to install such
> > a system in a LAN since the security would be null.
> > I hope that there is the possibility to fix it (in S.U.S.E. Linux there is
> > also that feature, but the root password is asked for).
> 
> A reader suggested adding the lines "restricted" and "password=xx"
> to /etc/lilo.conf.
> 
> While that works as far as it goes, let me reiterate:  in a system
> that has physical access there is NO security.
> 
> 1. If you put in a LILO password, it is possible to bypass it by
>    booting from a floppy: into DOS or Linux.
> 
> 2. If you password the BIOS, it only works at power-up.  Check
>    yours, but the ones I've seen do not bring the password up
>    on a reboot.
> 
> 3. If you get the BIOS to be password protected somehow, there 
>    is still the jumper to reset the bios.
> 
> 4. The hard drive can be stolen and mounted on another system.
> 
> Any sysadmin will tell you that the machine has to be locked up
> or in a trusted environment or security is not much use.  I think
> that is a reasonable statement.
> 
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> 

So will any security company....
-- 
John Duquette			| "It is harder to preserve than to 
Field Security Analyst		|  obtain liberty"
ICSA Inc.			|
				| - John C. Calhoun



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