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Linux-Announce Digest #202
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Linux-Announce Digest #202, Volume #4 Thu, 17 Oct 2002 00:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Draft rules for discussion on a LUG list (Frederick Noronha)
[New Project] BlackSuit Linux (Sergei Kononov)
[LOCAL-New Jersey] LUG/IP meeting and mini Linux-on-a-Mac Installfest (Ed C.)
Open IT - Govt to rewrite source code in Linux (fwd) (Frederick Noronha)
[ANN] The ELJ Project announces ELJ 0.4; Open Source Projects for Eiffel (Greg Compestine)
INDIA: Free Software at Cochin Univ of Science and Technology (Bharat (Frederick Noronha)
NEWS: Below Rs 20,000 PC could open up India market, says Via... (Frederick Noronha)
blueMail 0.11 - a multi-format offline mail reader (Ingo Brueckl)
UPDATES FROM INDIA: Libyahoo2....a C library (Frederick Noronha)
0.60 Released (Sean Rima)
Sweep 0.5.7 -- now with Ogg Vorbis support (Conrad Parker)
[ANNOUNCE] MailStripper - initial release (Michael McConnell)
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:25:52 CST
From: Frederick Noronha <fred@bytesforall.org>
Subject: Draft rules for discussion on a LUG list
Just thought of sharing with you'll some draft rules which we find useful
to implement and maintain the peace on our LUG list. If you have
suggestions/ feedback, please pass them on. These rules were suggested,
polished and put together by ShankarD, ArvindY, Siddharth, B2, Yunus,
AshleyD and FN.
#1. Talk politely on-list. If you can't be polite, please consider
unsubscribing.
#2. Please don't post any off-topic mail (non-GNU/Linux) to this list.
#3. In your reply, quote only minimum relevant portions of the earlier
mail.
#4. Once a 'thread' is declared closed by the moderators, please don't
insist on discussing it.
#5. Personal mail, meant for just 2-3 persons on-list, should not be
posted to everybody on the list.
#6. Signatures and mast-heads should be of reasonable size. LOST
tips, being informative and 'on topic' here, are welcome.
#7. If material is available on the web, post the URL with a small
description of the same.
#8. Don't post only URLs without giving at least a brief idea of
what the site contains. Some of our readers might not have
speedy Net access.
#9. Don't repeat the same posting more than once to this list.
#10 If you find a good GNU/Linux-related newsletter which can be
subscribed-to via the web, send in a brief synopsis of the
newsletter and directions on how to subscribe to the same.
#11 If you find something that would be of interest in a newsletter,
send across the excerpts of the relevant snippets. Eg. a snippet
or two from Freshmeat newsletter, rather than the entire posting.
#12 Try to condense information and post. This is needed in view of the
growing number of members on this list.
#13 Rather than curse the darkness, light a lamp. If you feel this
list could be better off with more useful information circulated
through it, please post something that others would learn from.
#14 Commercial postings (in moderate length), must necessarily
go with the [COMMERCIAL] tag on the subject-line. Such postings
should preferably be occasional, and not too frequent.
#15 If anyone violates these rules (i) lodge a protest, if any,
*only* with the moderators, and not directly to the list as a
whole (ii) preferably send a copy to the person who's behaviour
you see as violative to the letter and spirit of these rules.
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:25:53 CST
From: Sergei Kononov <df@infonet.nnov.ru>
Subject: [New Project] BlackSuit Linux
Hi, all.
I have started new project called BlackSuit Linux (maybe I will change
name in future). The main goal of this project is to create good
GNU/Linux distribution. Project in planning state for now.
I just want to invite any who want to create good GNU/Linux
distribution. If somebody is interested in this project you are welcome,
more detailed view of this project by email (df@infonet.nnov.ru).
I hope you will be interested in.
Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:25:53 CST
From: ecorrado@rider.edu (Ed C.)
Subject: [LOCAL-New Jersey] LUG/IP meeting and mini Linux-on-a-Mac Installfest
The next meeting of LUG/IP (Linux Users Group/In Princeton) is on the
23rd of October, 7pm, at the Lawrenceville (NJ) Headquaters Branch of
the Mercer County Library in Meeting Room #3.
Among other Linux-related disccusions we will have a mini-Linux
on-a-Apple install fest featuring (at least) Yellow Dog Linux and
iBooks. Of course if you have other Macs or want to try other distros
on your Mac, feel free to bring them along!
For more information go to http://www.lugip.org or e-mail
ecorrado@lugip.org. For directions to the meeting please see
http://www.mcl.org/dirlaw.html.
/dev/president/ed
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:26:02 CST
From: Frederick Noronha <fred@bytesforall.org>
Subject: Open IT - Govt to rewrite source code in Linux (fwd)
========== Forwarded message ==========
Open IT - Govt to rewrite source code in Linux
TIMES NEWS NETWORK [ WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 09, 2002 01:29:29 AM]
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/cms.dll/articleshow?artid=24598339
NEW DELHI: If the Chinese have IT, get it. The Indian government seems to be
taking a leaf out of China's operating system, and is planning a countrywide
drive to promote the open source operating system, Linux, as the 'platform
of choice' instead of 'proprietary' solutions.
For proprietory, read Microsoft, which controls over 90% of the desktop
software market.
The Department of Information Technology has already devised a strategy to
introduce Linux and open source software as a de-facto standard in academic
institutions, especially in engineering colleges through course work that
encourages use of such systems.
Research establishments would be advised to use and develop re-distributable
toolboxes just as Central government departments and state governments would
be asked to use Linux-based offerings.
DIT is in talks with leading industry players like IBM and HCL to get a feel
of their work in the area and invite proposals for joint projects. "As a
first step we are persuading all government institutions to offer courses on
Linux and programming for Linux environment. We would also set up Linux
Resource Centres in academic institutes (with co-funding from government and
industry)," said a senior government official.
Though India has made a name for itself selling solutions, software as a
product is expensive within the country. And the cost will bite once India
starts implementing IPR protection in earnest, as it has committed itself
to.
While redistribution of proprietary software is restricted through a licence
agreement, the licensing terms for Linux grants the right to obtain and
redistribute copies. Many analysts believe that China's growing dominance in
the IT space is fuelled by its low cost open source bias.
The Chinese government has consistently promoted its local software based on
Linux, both for cost reasons, and reportedly for 'security' concerns as
well.
The source code for proprietory software is not revealed, and this, it is
believed, has not found favour with the Chinese, especially in defence and
security related applications.
Microsoft, in what many observers and reports say is an attempt to soften
the Chinese government's stand, recently committed to investing $750m in
China in three years to help set up a software college and put its money
into Chinese education.
In comparison, Microsoft has announced investments worth only $75m over a
three-year time frame in India. Howver, the Chinese company Redflag
Software, which was set up by the Chinese Academy of Sciences, the country's
most prestigious research institute, has often come out with low-cost
software based on Linux, in direct competition to Windows-based software.
The Indian government's plan, however, is not driven by security concerns,
but by the far more simple arithmetic of costing. To put it simply, India
being a developing country needs low cost solutions.
Unlike the Microsoft-developed Windows operating system, Linux code is free
and downloadable from the internet. With the addition of special
applications, it can be personalized to meet specific needs.
An industry-government-user-developer conference on the subject would be
organised to throw up ideas for specific initiatives including funding,
reliable sources told ET.
The only issue here is support and services, which Indian government sources
feel is not likely to be an issue in a country known for its software
support and service skills.
Like China, the government is also eyeing the increasingly lucrative global
support and services market for the Linux environment may prove lucrative.
While proprietary support agreements govern only the systems purchased (with
licences), for free software support is independent of the number of copies
owned.
"With applications in security being a focus area, inputs have been sought
from the Defence on their experience with Linux. Indian-language based
solutions, e-governance, embedded and high performance cluster solutions are
other areas. But firstly we want to concretise the position on IPR issues in
the use of Linux," the source said.
DIT is planning a three-tier mechanism, with itself as the first, industry,
user groups and state governments as the second and a national apex
committee headed either by a government representative, an industry expert
or an academician to oversee manpower and skill development, applications
development and deployment and public policy support, said sources.
According to IDC's figures for '00, Microsoft still controlled 94% of the
desktop software market and while Linux is expected to overtake the number
two — Apple Mac OS — by '03, it would still control less than 4% of the
market.
In server software, it fares a little better and is expected to control
around 30% of the market by '03, according to IDC. Linux, which has
established itself in the server space, is an open reliable OS that runs on
virtually any platform and was developd by Finnish technologist Linus
Torvalds.
After developing the initial source code, Linus made it available on the
Internet for use, feedback and further development.
===============================================
Warm regards,
Ashish Kotamkar (ashish@mithi.com)
solaris--independant forum for IT & development issues
un/sub info: solaris-request@mail.sarai.net with the word "help" in the subject
line or in the body of the message.
URL: http://mail.sarai.net/mailman/listinfo/solaris/
archive: http://mail.sarai.net/pipermail/solaris/
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:26:08 CST
From: Greg Compestine <gregc@boulder.net>
Subject: [ANN] The ELJ Project announces ELJ 0.4; Open Source Projects for Eiffel
Reply-To: gmc444@yahoo.com
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Contact: geoff@elj.com
THE ELJ PROJECT ANNOUNCES THE RELEASE OF ELJ 0.4, OPEN SOURCE PROJECTS
AND LIBRARY BINDINGS FOR EIFFEL
Australia -- October 6, 2002. The ELJ Project is pleased to announce the
release of version 0.4, bringing extensive Linux support to the project.
Among the recent changes:
* Added Linux support for all areas of the library
* Added workarounds for inconsistences between wxGTK and wxMSW
* Fixed bugs in the Firebird dbs classes
* Added a first version of the service manager API to the firebird
cluster
* Added printing and application help to wxEiffel
* Fixed lots of minor bugs within wxEiffel
The ELJ Project supports several applications, relational databases,
native libraries and bindings to popular APIs. We are actively seeking
Linux talent to help with such issues as generating RPMs and improving
portability.
Applications:
* ELJ GIRLS -- a CRM, especially for software companies, based on
wxWindows and Firebird.
* SeBench -- an IDE for SmallEiffel.
* PVSW -- a management tool for a Pervasive database
Included in the downloads are:
* XmlViewer -- based on ELJ and Gobo
* Numerous examples for the wxWindows and database bindings.
Native Libraries:
* Perlish -- a library that provides some Perl functionality to
Eiffel programs
Database Interfaces:
* Firebird
* Berkely DB (SleepyCat)
* MySQL
* PostgreSQL
* Btrieve (Pervasive SQL2000)
* SQLite
GUI/OS Support:
* Win32 API (eljWin32api)
* wxWindows (wxEiffel)
* OpenGL (proof of concept only)
For more information about the ELJ project, visit:
http://elj.sourceforge.net
For more information about the SmallEiffel compiler, visit:
http://smalleiffel.loria.fr
For more information on the Gobo project, visit:
http://www.gobosoft.com
Or visit the IRC channel for eiffel, named #eiffel on
irc.openprojects.net
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:26:20 CST
From: Frederick Noronha <fred@bytesforall.org>
Subject: INDIA: Free Software at Cochin Univ of Science and Technology (Bharat
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 05:52:51 -0700 (PDT)
From: bharat chandran <getbharatchandran@yahoo.com>
To: gnu@gnu.org.in
Subject: [Fsf-friends] Free software movement in Cochin University of Science and Technology
Sir,
An Open Forum of Free Software Movement was held in
the Dept of Polymer Science,Cochin University of
Science and Technology,Cochin,Kerala,India on 25th
September at 2 P.M. for promoting Free Software
Movement in CUSAT.The following decisions were taken
(i) To form a core group of people interested in Free
Software
(ii) To form an egroup for Free Software Movement in
CUSAT. ('FSCUSAT'(CUSAT Free Software Movement >
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fscusat/) is now
available)
(iii) To start loading Linux in the systems of
interested users
(iv) To arrange a workshop on Free Software towards
the end of October.(For atleast two representatives
from each Department)
(v) A committee was formed with two convernors
1. Mr. G.Santhosh Kumar (Lect. ,Dept of Computer
Science)
2. Mr. Bharat Chandran.R.S (Student, Dept of
Instrumentation)
Regards,
Bharat Chandran
NB:- Please tell me how to be a member of FSF
india.Also tell me how our members in Cochin
University will be able to a member in FSF India
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:26:22 CST
From: Frederick Noronha <fred@bytesforall.org>
Subject: NEWS: Below Rs 20,000 PC could open up India market, says Via...
Below Rs 20,000 PCs could open up Indian market, says Via
By Frederick Noronha, Indo-Asian News Service
PANAJI (Goa), Oct 3: Cheaper computers are on their way. Global chipset
manufacturer Via Technologies Inc is aggressively looking at grabbing space
in the price-sensitive Indian market by coming out with their version of the
Janata PCs.
"It should be possible to easily come out with a sufficiently-powerful
sub-20,000 rupee personal computer," Via Technologies Inc. country manager
for India Ravi Pradhan told Indo-Asian News Service here.
Speaking in an exclusive interview, the former IBM Corporation technologist
who has resettled to India points out that costly and high-powered computers
are not really the need for the average user since "in this country the
bottleneck is network connectivity, not the computer speed".
"We want to bring the price of a computer to the sub-20,000 rupee range.
That too, offering every function that the user requires, including 256 meg
memory and a CD-writer," Pradhan said.
Inspite all the talk of computer prices going down, the international market
has been focussing on a business model which gives PC buyers more-powerful
though vastly-costly models. Lower-powered brands simply get pushed out of
the market, leaving the cash-strapped middle-class buyer with few options.
"Lower-cost PCs would really help the commonman, who has a dream of giving a
good education to his children, and having a PC in their home," argues
Pradhan. He graduated from IIT-Madras and is returning to India after
spending 26 years in the US.
Via started making chip-sets for PCs in 1993-94. "Three years ago Via
purchased the Cyrix CPU company to form National Semiconductors. Today, we
do both CPUs (central processing units, the 'heart' of the PC) and graphic
chips," says Pradhan.
He argues that with a total of 6 million PCs in India, and just 1.5 to 1.8
million sold each year, the numbers here are too small are far too
insufficient to touch critical mass.
"There is no need for higher-end personal computers for the vast majority of
users. Almost any task can be done by a computer (with a chip speed of)
600-700 Mhz," says Pradhan.
You can do most of your work with this, whether it is word-processing,
working on spread-sheets, accessing the Internet, sending and receiving
e-mail or chat via the Net, he notes.
"For graphics-intensive work and high-end computing, the P4 is excellent
(but not required for the average user)," he said.
Pradhan says Via is keen to promote Free and Open Source software, given the
stability and potency and also Affordability -- which matters in a country
like India -- of this brand of software.
"We see no need for the Indian market to pay huge amounts for software. We
would like to work very closely with the huge Linux community in India,"
said Pradhan. "Linux is most affordable, most stable and a lot less prone to
hacking and virus too," said he. (ENDS)
NOTE: Pradhan can be contacted at Ravi at quaza dot com.
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:26:28 CST
From: ib@wupperonline.de (Ingo Brueckl)
Subject: blueMail 0.11 - a multi-format offline mail reader
I'm proud to announce new version 0.11 of blueMail with lots of new features,
including decoding support for RFC2045 MIME (type quoted-printable) encoded
message bodies.
The Hudson Message Base and the Unix mail file driver now have full locking
and lastread pointers support. Moreover, new drivers (also with full locking
and lastread pointers support, but read-only so far) are available for:
QWKE, SOUP, BBBS, OMEN and Hippo (v2)
What is blueMail?
=================
blueMail is a multi-format offline mail reader for Unix, DOS, Win32, and
other systems.
It supports the Blue Wave, QWK, QWKE, SOUP, OMEN and Hippo packet formats,
the Hudson and BBBS Message Bases, Unix mail, Eudora and is designed to
be a reasonable alternative to the Blue Wave mail reader. It has a full
screen, colored user interface built with the curses library.
blueMail is free, "open source" software, provided "as is", without
warranty of any kind, distributed under the GNU General Public License.
Its current maintainer is Ingo Brueckl <ib@wupperonline.de> and will not
accept liability resulting from your use or inability to use blueMail.
You can get the latest version from
http://home.wtal.de/ib/bluemail
Requirements
============
* Unix-compatible (POSIX) system, DOS with DJGPP, Cygwin with Windows, or
OS/2 with EMX
* curses -- tested with ncurses 1.9.3+, and PDCurses 2.2+
* gcc (g++) 2.7.0+ -- may work with other C++ compilers, not tested
* InfoZip, and/or other compressing archivers
* GNU make *may* be required on some systems
* PMODE/DJ (by Thomas Pytel and Matthias Grimrath) and UPX (by Markus
Oberhumer & Laszlo Molnar) is recommended (and used) for the DOS binary
What's new in this version?
===========================
You can find a list of new features and improvements in the history file
together with a list of new options for the configuration file since
version 0.01.
See INSTALL for the installation procedure, and the man page (bmail.1, or
bmail.doc for DOS, Windows or OS/2) for information on usage.
Tested Systems
==============
blueMail will run on multiple platforms, like
MSDOS 6.22 (DJGPP, PDCurses)
Linux 2.0, 2.2, 2.4 (gcc, egcs, ncurses, PDCurses aka XCurses)
Windows 9x/NT (Cygwin, PDCurses)
and - untested -
OS/2 (emx, PDCurses)
NetBSD (ncurses)
Solaris (curses)
(Please understand that it is impossible to continuously test blueMail on
all platforms, so there may be bugs on platforms other than my developing
platform DOS, but I'll try to fix all bugs I'll be told.)
If you get it running on a dissimilar system, please let me know (along
with any necessary patches).
Ingo Brueckl
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:28:03 CST
From: Frederick Noronha <fred@bytesforall.org>
Subject: UPDATES FROM INDIA: Libyahoo2....a C library
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:49:26 +0530 (IST)
From: Philip S Tellis <philip@konark.ncst.ernet.in>
To: Linux Users <linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in>,
<linux-india-submit@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [ILUG-BOM] [Announce] libyahoo2 v 0.6
Reply-To: linuxers@mm.ilug-bom.org.in
libyahoo2 - A C library for the Yahoo! Messenger Protocol.
http://libyahoo2.sourceforge.net/
Changes in this release:
* Removed glib dependencies. Will use glib only if available
* Configure time option --with-struct-callbacks to use a callback
struct instead of callback functions (see yahoo2_callbacks.h and
the README)
* Identities Support
- Get identities from server
- Activate/Deactivate identities
- Use identities when sending messages
* Fixed possible buffer overflow in reading key/value pairs
* sample console client no longer requires gtk!
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:28:03 CST
From: Sean Rima <sean@tcob1.net>
Subject: 0.60 Released
I have just uploaded 0.60 to the BanShee-Linux web site
(http://www.banshee-linux.org). BanShee Linux/R is a two-floppy
rescue system using uClibc and Busybox to make sure that the system
is as small as possible.
Changes:
Kernel updated to 2.4.19
smartsuite 2.1 added
bzip2 1.02 added
dosfs tools 2.8 added
file (freefile 1.8) added
vche 1.7 added
iptables 1.2.7a added
Some man files were html'ified onto the banshee-linux web site
Download and enjoy.
Sean
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:28:10 CST
From: Conrad Parker <conrad@vergenet.net>
Subject: Sweep 0.5.7 -- now with Ogg Vorbis support
Sweep 0.5.7 Development Release
===============================
Sweep is a sound wave editor, and it is now also generally useful as a
flexible recording and playback tool. Inside lives a pesky little virtual
stylus called Scrubby who enjoys mixing around in your files.
This development release is available as a source tarball at:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/sweep/sweep-0.5.7.tar.gz?download
This version includes support for Ogg Vorbis import and export, including
both variable and average bitrate encoding modes. There are many other
user interface updates, including new input controls for sample rates and
channels.
There is a new Screenshot tour of Sweep, introducing effects filters,
Ogg Vorbis encoding dialogs, and colour schemes:
http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/screenshots/
Sweep is designed to be intuitive and to give you full control. It includes
almost everything you would expect in a sound editor, and then some:
* precise, vinyl like scrubbing
* looped, reverse, and pitch-controlled playback
* playback mixing of unlimited independent tracks
* looped and reverse recording
* internationalisation
* multichannel and 32 bit floating point file support
* LADSPA 1.1 effects support
* multiple views, discontinuous selections
* easy keybindings, mouse wheel zooming
* unlimited undo/redo with fully revertible edit history
* multithreaded background processing
* shaded peak/mean waveform rendering, multiple colour schemes
Sweep is Free Software, available under the GNU General Public License.
More information is available at:
http://www.metadecks.org/software/sweep/
Thanks to Pixar Animation Studios and CSIRO Australia for supporting the
development of this project.
enjoy :)
Conrad.
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Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2002 22:28:11 CST
From: Michael McConnell <soruk@bitbucket.eridani.co.uk>
Subject: [ANNOUNCE] MailStripper - initial release
I've just put together the initial release of MailStripper (ver 0.56)
It's an anti-spam daemon that attempts to clear the junk from your
incoming email.
Unlike some which require specific versions of specific MTAs, MailStripper
sits in front of your MTA (which you need to reconfig to listen on another
port besides 25) and scans your incoming SMTP stream. We recommend the use
of the Linux Dummy net interface, to give you a local IP your MTA doesn't
recognise as local to prevent relaying, as is most likely to happen if
127.0.0.1 is used.
MailStripper also supports third-party anti-virus scanning - using the
free version of F-Prot here it's already stopped numerous copies of
Bugbear.
Please be aware this is an initial release, and is quite likely to have
its problems - though it's been handling all Eridani mail for a while now.
For more details and downloads, please visit the web site at
http://www.eridani.co.uk/MailStripper/
--
-- Michael "Soruk" McConnell [Eridani Linux 6.3 Now!]
Eridani Linux -- Compatible with Red Hat 6.x but vastly updated...
http://www.eridani.co.uk -- Linux CDs: Debian, Slackware, Mandrake, more...
Kick the bitbucket to reply.
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Internet: Linux-Announce-Request@NEWS-DIGESTS.MIT.EDU
You can submit announcements to be moderated via:
Internet: linux-announce@NEWS.ORNL.GOV
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
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