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Linux-Announce Digest #798
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Linux-Announce Digest #798, Volume #3 Sun, 11 Jun 00 16:13:04 EDT
Contents:
2nd CFV: comp.os.linux.embedded (Dave Cornejo)
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From: Dave Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com>
Reply-To: vote@dogwood.com
Crossposted-To: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.arch.embedded,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.portable
Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.os.linux.embedded
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2000 05:09:13 GMT
LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2)
unmoderated group comp.os.linux.embedded
Newsgroups line:
comp.os.linux.embedded Linux operating system on embedded hardware.
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 22 Jun 2000.
This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions
about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent.
Proponent: John Peterson <jaypee@netcom.com>
Mentor: Jonathan Grobe <grobe@netins.net>
Votetaker: Dave Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com>
RATIONALE: comp.os.linux.embedded
It is becoming apparent that the Linux operating system has a
very bright future in the area of embedded applications; internet
appliances, wireless internet access, personal digital assistants,
television set top boxes, medical instruments, dedicated control
systems, etc. The potential for the growth of Linux in this area is
highlighted by the fact that roughly 95% of all newly manufactured
microcomputer chips are used for embedded applications.
Industry has already embraced Linux for use in embedded applications
for several reasons. The cost of licensing a commercial operating
system and the power of the open source development model are some
of the more prominent ones. The TiVo personal video recorder,
and the Empeg MP3 car player are two examples of consumer products
that utilize embedded Linux. Samsung has recently announced plans to
market the world's first Linux based PDA, named Yopy. Sony already
uses Linux based systems for developing applications for it's
Playstation2 game machine. The industry has further demonstrated
it's commitment to Linux by the recent announcement of the formation
of the Embedded Linux Consortium (ELC). It will consist of roughly
50 member companies including IBM, Lineo, Motorola and Red Hat.
Linux development has historically been oriented toward desktop
and server applications and the current comp.os.linux.* hierarchy
largely reflects this heritage. The unique nature of the technical
issues of using Linux for embedded applications, and the potential
for enormous growth are the two main reasons for the proposal of
this new Usenet newsgroup.
There will be some overlap of the charter of the proposed group
with that of the existing comp.os.linux.portable newsgroup (using
the Linux OS on portable computers). This is unavoidable since
some embedded devices are designed with the intent to provide
portable computing resources of a rather general nature (PDAs for
example). However, the universe of embedded devices that would not
be classified as a portable computer is very large (e.g. TV set top
boxes, medical instruments). It is the contention of the proponent
that the proposed group is sufficiently disjoint from the existing
comp.os.linux.portable newsgroup that the efficiency and viability
of both groups would not be negatively impacted.
Topics related to the use of Linux on embedded processors are
already frequently discussed in several existing Usenet newsgroups
and mailing lists. Statistics for such postings during the period
>from Jan 1, 2000 to Jan 31, 2000 are shown in the table below. The
Usenet statistics were gathered using "Power" keyword searches
>from the Deja search engine at http://www.deja.com/home_ps.shtml
Newsgroup / Mailing List Posts Search Keyword
======================== ===== ====== =======
comp.arch.embedded 151 "Linux"
comp.dsp 41 "Linux"
comp.realtime 24 "Linux"
comp.os.linux.development.system 17 "embedded"
comp.os.linux.hardware 8 "embedded"
linuxppc-embedded mailing list 266 N.A.
linux-embedded mailing list 48 N.A.
linuxce mailing list 180 N.A.
uclinux mailing list 135 N.A.
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Total Postings 870
Average Postings / Day 28 (870/31)
CHARTER: comp.os.linux.embedded
This newsgroup is intended to be a public forum for the discussion
of the development and use of the Linux operating system on embedded
hardware platforms. Topics considered appropriate for posting to the
group might include (but are not limited to);
o Software Related Topics
+ Embedded Linux distributions (e.g. Lineo Embedix, Mobile Linux)
+ Software APIs for embedded Linux development (e.g. Cygnus EL/IX)
+ Development of user applications for embedded Linux
+ Integrated Development Environments for embedded Linux
o Hardware Related Topics
+ Linux based emulators and debuggers for embedded hardware
+ Existing Linux support for specific hardware
+ Development of device drivers for embedded Linux
Topics that might appear welcome on the surface, but in fact are not
include; general questions about embedded hardware with no reference
to Linux, questions about embedded or real time programming that
are not specific to Linux, such as "What is multithreading?", or
"What is a deadlock?", etc.
One time postings of commercial product announcements or postings of
a commercial nature that are replies to another posted inquiry will
be considered appropriate. However, as in most other Usenet groups,
repeated or indiscriminant posting of commercial advertisements will
be prohibited. Postings using MIME, HTML formats are discouraged
since many Usenet readers do not use web browsers. The posting of
source code and binaries for the purpose of distribution shall be
prohibited. However, a small snippet of source code or a small patch
would be considered acceptable.
END CHARTER.
HOW TO VOTE:
Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer.
You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to:
vote@dogwood.com
Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work.
Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message
should contain one and only one of the following vote statements:
I vote YES on comp.os.linux.embedded
I vote NO on comp.os.linux.embedded
Voter name:
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AOL does not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_
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signature line is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or
remove the words "Voter name"!
You may also vote ABSTAIN (which records an empty vote) or CANCEL
(which removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final
vote count in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not.
IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES:
Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one
account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to
the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid.
Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous
votes. Votes from non-existent email addresses are not valid.
Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may
mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an
acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker
about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is
registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the
most recent valid vote. Addresses, names and votes of all voters will
be published in the final voting results post.
The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of
persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from
disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute
this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to
news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited
copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in
doubt, ask the votetaker.
DISTRIBUTION:
Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups:
alt.os.linux
comp.dsp
comp.os.linux.hardware
comp.os.linux.powerpc
linux.dev.laptop
linux.redhat.misc
Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these lists:
linuxppc-embedded mailing list
uclinux mailing list
linuxCE mailing list
linux-embedded mailing list
Real Time Linux mailing list
SA-1100' Linux mailing list
Yopy mailing list
A pointer directing readers to this CFV will be posted on this web site:
www.linuxdevices.com
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Voting question & problems: Dave Cornejo <dave@dogwood.com>
Voting address: vote@dogwood.com
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