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[gtk-list] Re: wrong position of underline
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Changwoo Ryu)
Fri Nov 13 04:16:21 1998
To: Owen Taylor <otaylor@redhat.com>
Cc: gtk-list@redhat.com
From: Changwoo Ryu <cwryu@adam.kaist.ac.kr>
Date: 13 Nov 1998 18:15:56 +0900
In-Reply-To: Owen Taylor's message of "13 Nov 1998 02:57:50 -0500"
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Owen Taylor <otaylor@redhat.com> writes:
> However, this isn't very relevant, because the real problem here is
> that the code needs to iterate character-by-character through the
> string to determine the underlined characters, and the code isn't
> multi-byte aware.
>
> I believe that you should be able to get the underlines to display
> properly by underlining breaking the character you want to underline
> in two and prepending a '_' to _both_ bytes. But that really isn't the
> right solution...
I didn't use any Korean but I got the same problem. I deleted Korean
messages and ran gnumeric. The underline in "Save _as" is placed
below `e'.
> This problem makes me wonder how underline accelerators work
> in non-roman languages. For Korean entered on a Roman keyboard,
> it seems relatively straightforward - I would image that
> if the menu item was 'haemul' and 'hae' was underlined, than
> the keyboard accelerator would be 'h'.
>
Generally (at least in Korean edition of M$-Windows), we don't
underline Korean character. People couldn't think that `h' is the
accelerator when they see underlined `hae'.
"haemul (_H)" has been generally used for Korean softwares. Yes...
As you think, it is not descriptive at all, but people can learn it
with some hard.
> But for Japanese and Chinese the problem is much trickier - for
> Japanese especially, going from Kanji to keyboard key does not
> seem feasible. For these languages and probably also Korean,
> perhaps one would want to extend the syntax of the underline
> accelerators for menus so that: (using the Korean example)
>
> &h_(hae)(mul)
>
> would mean use 'h' as the accelerator, but don't display it, and
> underline 'hae'. This still presents some problems when
> dealing with non-roman keyboads. (How do you map from
> the EUC encoding of the Japanese kana 'sa' to GDK_kana_SA?
> Presumably you need a table.) But do Japanese and Chinese
> language programs typically use underline accelerators
> at all?
There are also Korean keysymbols (XK_Hangul_*). But I have never seen
a program or a user that uses these keysymbols. I believe other
languages don't use such keysymbols either.
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