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Re: NPR : E-Mail Encryption Rare in Everyday Use

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Peter Saint-Andre)
Tue Feb 28 14:44:36 2006

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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 17:00:49 -0700
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@jabber.org>
To: bear <bear@sonic.net>
Cc: cryptography@metzdowd.com
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.58.0602241608390.27521@bolt.sonic.net>

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bear wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 24 Feb 2006, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> 
> 
>> Personally I doubt that anything other than a small percentage of email
>> will ever be signed, let alone encrypted (heck, most people on this list
>> don't even sign their mail).
>>
> 
> I don't think I've said anything here that I will later want to be
> able to prove incontrovertibly was said by me.
> 
> In general, signing your mail has a downside in this age of litigous
> potential mail recipients, and except when your mail regards the
> disposition of assets, no upside.
> 
> In the long run, I think the population of people who want to sign
> their mail is about the same as the population of people who want to
> post on usenet with their real name and put their street address
> and phone number at the bottom of every post.
> 
> Why give the anonymous cowards who are collecting information with
> robotic trawlers, whether for spam lists or any other reason, proof
> of exactly who you are?

The short answer to your unstated question is: anonymity is not high in
my scale of values. The long answer will require some reflection on my
part, which I won't post here but at my blog when I have the time.

Peter

--
Peter Saint-Andre
Jabber Software Foundation
http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.shtml


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