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Re: Haystack redux

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Youll)
Thu Sep 16 09:31:15 2010

From: Jim Youll <jim@cr-labs.com>
In-Reply-To: <20100915184815.GY13439@lola.ec2.internal>
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 19:32:11 -0700
Cc: Jacob Appelbaum <jacob@appelbaum.net>,
 Steve Weis <steveweis@gmail.com>,
 Alec Muffett <alec.muffett@gmail.com>,
 cryptography@metzdowd.com
To: Adam Fields <cryptography23094893@aquick.org>


On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:48 AM, Adam Fields wrote:

> I find it hard to believe that even the most uninformed dissidents
> would be using an untested, unaudited, _beta_, __foreign__ new service
> for anything. Is there any reason to believe otherwise? My first guess
> would have been that it was a government-sponsored honeypot, and I bet
> they're far more suspicious than I am.

Perhaps people are more hopeful than suspicious.

"Haystack" [1] had the apparent "approval" of the US State Department =
(no friends of the Iranian government), a pretty web page, major donors, =
coverage in all the mainstream press, an "award" in the UK, and lots of =
other stuff that demonstrated credibility. Gotta trust someone. Who you =
gonna trust? The guys with all that cred, or, say... me?=20

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[1] given Daniel Colascione's statements, we may have to quote this =
thing as it was test code, not what he intended to release.

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