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Re: Run a remailer, go to jail?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James M Galvin)
Fri Mar 28 17:19:35 2003

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Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 16:54:10 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
From: James M Galvin <galvin@acm.org>
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No way.  The phrase "flatly ban" is overstating the words in the actual
bills.

They both require that the use of such technologies be for the purpose
of committing a crime.  Law enforcement would still have to show intent,
which is as it should be.

If take the point of view in the essay to its logical conclusion then
mailing lists and in some configurations the use of PGP, S/MIME, or VPNs
would be illegal also.

Maybe states are colluding to outlaw encryption?  Now that would be
creative on the part of whoever started this bill process.

Jim





On Fri, 28 Mar 2003, Perry E. Metzger wrote:

    Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2003 13:10:56 -0500
    From: Perry E. Metzger <perry@piermont.com>
    To: cryptography@wasabisystems.com
    Subject: Run a remailer, go to jail?


    http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000336.html

    Quoting:

            Here is one example of the far-reaching harmful effects of
            these bills. Both bills would flatly ban the possession, sale,
            or use of technologies that "conceal from a communication
            service provider ... the existence or place of origin or
            destination of any communication".

    --
    Perry E. Metzger		perry@piermont.com

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