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Re: [APO-L] APO House rule

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mo Snare)
Wed Aug 27 23:59:48 2003

Date:         Wed, 27 Aug 2003 20:56:43 -0700
Reply-To: mightemo@yahoo.com
From: Mo Snare <mightemo@yahoo.com>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
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Now in the case of Pennsylvania... (and correct me if this law no longer exists), but there is a law that states that 5 or more unrelated woman living in the same house is considered a bro

thel.  Having an APO House would be going against state law, and therefore, the whole chapter is in jeopardy for breaking state law (something that supercedes the chapter bylaws and national bylaws).

Just my 2 cents...

At your Service,

Mo



>>I'll put in my two cents here. I think the above commentary is a bit
short-sighted. Having a house of any kind is expensive. A traditional
social fraternity or sorority who "has a house" has each new member pay at
minimum a $500 "housing fee" . This fee is paid by ALL new members regardless
of if they live in the house or not. In some areas, it could be substancially
more. I have never seen it be less. Do we really want to send out the message
that APO is only for "rich kids"?

Ok, so let's assume that the fraternity chapter isn't going to own the house
but just rent it as a group and then allow members to live there. Now we open
another can of worms...that of risk management and liability. The liability
is on both the chapter, the chapter officers AND the national organization.
We have a hard enough job controlling our risk management with just our pledging
processes. To add on liability of property incidents is just asking for trouble.

in service,
Mariza Shavelle
alumni...
shavelle@misty.com





Mo Snare
Alpha Phi Omega
Section 90 Membership Program Coordinator
Alumnus, Alpha Beta Chapter (PSU); Life Member
215-295-3323 (Home), 215-480-1704 (cell, voicemail)
Dietetic Technician, Robert Wood Johnson Univ. Hospital

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<P>Now in the case of Pennsylvania... (and correct me if this law no longer exists), but there is a law that states that 5 or more unrelated woman living in the same house is considered a bro</P>
<P>thel.&nbsp; Having an APO House would be going against state law, and therefore, the whole chapter is in jeopardy for breaking state law (something that supercedes the chapter bylaws and national bylaws).&nbsp; </P>
<P>Just my 2 cents... </P>
<P>At your Service,</P>
<P>Mo</P>
<P><BR><BR>&gt;&gt;I'll put in my two cents here. I think the above commentary is a bit<BR>short-sighted. Having a house of any kind is expensive. A traditional<BR>social fraternity or sorority who "has a house" has each new member pay at<BR>minimum a $500 "housing fee" . This fee is paid by ALL new members regardless<BR>of if they live in the house or not. In some areas, it could be substancially<BR>more. I have never seen it be less. Do we really want to send out the message<BR>that APO is only for "rich kids"?<BR><BR>Ok, so let's assume that the fraternity chapter isn't going to own the house<BR>but just rent it as a group and then allow members to live there. Now we open<BR>another can of worms...that of risk management and liability. The liability<BR>is on both the chapter, the chapter officers AND the national organization.<BR>We have a hard enough job controlling our risk management with just our pledging<BR>processes. To add on liability of property incidents is just!
  asking
 for trouble.<BR><BR>in service,<BR>Mariza Shavelle<BR>alumni...<BR><A href="mailto:shavelle@misty.com">shavelle@misty.com</A></P>
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