[23846] in APO-L
Re: [APO-L] APO House rule
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mariza Shavelle)
Wed Aug 27 23:33:29 2003
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 23:32:10 -0400
Reply-To: Mariza Shavelle <shavelle@misty.com>
From: Mariza Shavelle <shavelle@misty.com>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
In-Reply-To: <006a01c36d13$440f1070$6801a8c0@HOMELESS>
Quoting Dan Kreifus <dkreifus@yahoo.com>:
> Just a thought to put out there....
> Has anyone thought about the purpose of the rule against having an APO
> house?
>
> I understand it's to prevent parties in the stereotypical nature of Greeks.
> But lets face facts, Members of APO will end up sharing an apt, house, or
> dorm together. This in turn becomes the "APO House".
>
> On my campus, we don't have an office, because campus activites doesn't issue
> offices to individual greek organizations.
>
> There are a few benifits to allowing a APO house, such as a place hold
> meetings, ceremonies, and rush activites. It's freedom from limits such as
> room availability, or time. It could also provide storage APO materials that
> aren't easy to transport.
>
> Now, I can see where problems can come up. It can be made illegal to raise or
> have dues go into renting the APO House. (Obviously won't apply to chapters
> whose schools provide housing). Questions can also be raised about the co-ed
> factor. We are all over 18 (or will be shortly.) Most colleges have co-ed
> dorms, and provided we don't have males and females in the same room, it
> shouldn't be a problem.
>
> This is just a idea for thought, something to discuss, or consider for next
> nationals....
I'll put in my two cents here. I think the above commentary is a bit
short-sighted. Having a house of any kind is expensive. A traditional
social fraternity or sorority who "has a house" has each new member pay at
minimum a $500 "housing fee" . This fee is paid by ALL new members regardless
of if they live in the house or not. In some areas, it could be substancially
more. I have never seen it be less. Do we really want to send out the message
that APO is only for "rich kids"?
Ok, so let's assume that the fraternity chapter isn't going to own the house
but just rent it as a group and then allow members to live there. Now we open
another can of worms...that of risk management and liability. The liability
is on both the chapter, the chapter officers AND the national organization.
We have a hard enough job controlling our risk management with just our pledging
processes. To add on liability of property incidents is just asking for trouble.
in service,
Mariza Shavelle
alumni...
shavelle@misty.com