[23708] in APO-L
Re: [APO-L] National Policy Question
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Price, Todd)
Tue Apr 29 10:01:12 2003
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 10:01:07 -0400
Reply-To: "Price, Todd" <Todd.Price@Detroitdiesel.com>
From: "Price, Todd" <Todd.Price@Detroitdiesel.com>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
The legality and legitimacy of said action is this...
Section/Region/National Staff (Volunteers) serve at the descretion of their
respective Section Chairs, Region Directions, and National Program Directors
(i.e. Elected Officials). These individuals can generally hire/fire any
member of their "staff" at will, and the purpose of said volunteers is to
promote the program of their Section Chair/Region Director/Program Director
to the best of their ability, under the assumption that said elected
officials are representing the best interests of the Undergraduates to whom
they answer.
If the various Chairs & Directors are in support of volunteer registration,
and think it is a good idea, the available choices number two: either get
registered or respectfully decline your staff/volunteer position. It's that
simple.
All of the previous debate, though interesting, is moot unless a Section
Chair or Region Director wants to chime in, take and argue the position that
it is not a requirement for their Section/Region.
****
Now, on a seperate note, why does everyone have such an issue with this? It
is not as if I can't make a few calls and find out where you live, no matter
who or where you are. You can do the same for me. The only issues I can
find that might cause concern are as follows:
1. The time it takes to fill out and sign the form.
2. Having to acknowledge and sign the Risk Management policy.
If anyone wants to argue #1, they probably don't need to be a volunteer. As
to #2, if you want to serve the undergraduates of this organization, then
you need to be the one to set the example. If you want to require such
action from the Chapters, there should be little reason against filling out
this registration form.
My 2 Cents,
Todd Price
-----Original Message-----
From: michael shulman [mailto:mikeinapo@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:31 AM
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
Subject: Re: [APO-L] National Policy Question
I would like to quesion the legality and legitimacy of said action..
The amedment the the manual was not mentioned at all on the floor by the
board (who would essentially be the only ones to know the information).
During the debate the databse quesiton came up where I asked the geek
question if the national office had the databse capability to do this and
the answer was no
So, what changed?
LFS
Michael Shulman
>From: Derek Cashman <derek.cashman@vcu.edu>
>Reply-To: Derek Cashman <derek.cashman@vcu.edu>
>To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
>Subject: Re: [APO-L] National Policy Question
>Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2003 22:46:31 -0300
>
> > I came across this link
> > http://www.apor2.org/index.php/IVD
> > Which is a memo from Bob London which discusses mandatory volunteer
> > registration, but if I recall correctly, the national convention
>qualshed
> > that plan (the active alumni question came up here).
> > If I'm mistaken please tell me so.
> > LFS
> > Michael Shulman
>
>Before the National Convention, the Board passed an amendment to the
>National Board of Directors' Policy Manual, which established
>mandatory volunteer registration. This was done, I believe, at the
>July 2002 Board Meeting. There was a proposal introduced at the
>convention, which went before the Alumni Relations & Internal
>Volunteer Development Reference Committee (which I served on), to
>establish mandatory volunteer registration. This was a resolution
>which would have enhanced the National Board Policy Manual. Basically,
>it contained the same thing except added a provision that would have
>printed membership cards / certificates to all of the volunteers, and
>included a subscription to the Torch & Trefoil as well. Due to the
>printing costs involved, the resolution also proposed a small fee,
>equal to the Annual Active Membership Dues (AAMD) for an active
>member, except that the fee would be waived for Life Members, since
>they already get the T&T anyway. The resolution passed the committee
>unanimously, but was killed on the floor. The reason it did not pass
>the floor was mainly because several section chairs spoke up against
>the registration fee. Although a lot of them also felt that many
>volunteers already spend a considerable chunk of money going to
>conferences, and on photocopying and mailings and other expenses
>(which is, of course, tax-deductible - although I'm not sure a lot of
>people know that this is tax-deductible; or others may not itemize
>their taxes).
>
>However, despite the convention's proceedings, the National Board
>Policy Manual amendment, which officially went into effect right after
>convention, stands. So there is still mandatory volunteer
>registration, albeit with no fee, and no registration
>cards/certificates or Torch & Trefoils delivered to the volunteers. So
>Bob London is essentially following the Board of Directors' Policy
>Manual in this case.
>
>The reason for mandatory volunteer registration, of course, is so that
>the national office can keep track of who is volunteering. This
>information is, of course, important when considering relationships
>with other national organizations, as well as applying for national
>awards like the Point of Light, or grants, etc,...
>
>
>
>* Derek Cashman (webmaster@apo83.org)
>* Technology & Electronic Communications (TEC) Coordinator
>* Region III; Alpha Phi Omega
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