[23449] in APO-L
Re: [APO-L] Toast Song Issues
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Philip Harvey)
Fri Jan 17 16:46:50 2003
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:46:25 -0500
Reply-To: Philip Harvey <pharvey@nycap.rr.com>
From: Philip Harvey <pharvey@nycap.rr.com>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
hrm.. what would we do for the third verse? For the he first verse,
we've got our arms on each others shoulders like a big group hug, then
it's right over left, hand in hand... what do we do for the 3rd verse
though? just hand in hand, no right over left, and do a wave sort of
thing, starting with the president? hrm, maybe not... we can't even
sway in time with eachother...
-phil
Buddha Buck wrote:
>
> Kevin Yue wrote:
> > Well...I read those few emails coming through about the Toast Song...I
> > agree with NOT changing the song at all, for all the reasons that my
> > fellow Brothers have presented. However, I know that Epsilon Mu Chapter
> > felt that we needed to celebrate the diversity among the Chapter, so an
> > EM Brother wrote, back in 1996 (and Henry Marx, correct me if I'm
> > wrong...), Brother Brian Weissman wrote a third verse which sings as
> > follows:
> >
> > Sing we now both men and women
> > Brothers all are we
> > Hearts as one we praise together
> > Our diversity
> > Ever growing, ever learning
> > So that we may be
> > Joined in Alpha Phi Omega
> > For eternity
>
> I think, overall, I'd prefer to add a new verse rather than to change
> the existing verses. I'm not sure I'd support this verse, but that's
> more a matter of aesthetics than a disagreement with the sentiment.
>
> First, we've added verses before -- the current 2nd verse was an
> addition -- but I don't think we've changed verses. So there is
> precedent for this sort of change.
>
> Second, adding a new verse will allow old alumni to sing along with the
> existing verses without feeling out of place. It will be familiar, even
> though it will no longer stop where they expect it. I have sung the
> Toast Song with alumni from my chapter who predated the existing second
> verse, and while there was a minor amount of confusion on their part
> when the song continued, it wasn't a problem. I think a much larger
> amount of confusion would result if they had to question whether or not
> they even knew the song anymore.
>
> In a way, adding more verses without changing the existing verses is
> useful because it reflects the growing history of our Fraternity.
