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Re: [APO-L] Legislative Postmortem

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Cross, Matt)
Tue Jan 7 12:00:43 2003

Date:         Tue, 7 Jan 2003 08:40:05 -0800
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From: "Cross, Matt" <MATTHEW.J.CROSS@SAIC.COM>
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I was one of the advisors for the Membership and Extension Committee in New
Orleans.  In the case of Extension membership, there were Brothers that came
forward to speak for and against the proposed legislation.  After hearing
all of the voluntary testimony, the students on the committee decided among
themselves that they had heard enough testimony to make a decision.  The
advisors did point out that if the committee wanted, they could subpoena any
of the authors of the legislation.  The committee deliberated some more and
decided that they did have enough information without having to hear from
anyone else.

My advice in the future (and Mark may shoot me for suggesting this) would be
to check the doors of the meeting rooms during committee times to see if
there is a sign-up sheet for voluntary speakers.  M & E had one posted the
whole time that we referred to.  I guarantee that no offense was intended
towards anyone that did not get subpoenaed by the M & E committee and wanted
one.

Matt Cross
Section 74 Chair -- Alpha Phi Omega
(888) 270-0074
mailto:section.74.chair@apo.org <mailto:section.74.chair@apo.org>
http://www.section74.org <http://www.section74.org/>


-----Original Message-----
From: Alpha Phi Omega Discussion List [mailto:APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU] On
Behalf Of Vehlow, Richard
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:55 AM
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
Subject: [APO-L] Legislative Postmortem



well, another legislative bonanza has come and gone. Not sure what passed,
but I know a lot didn't, at least of the stuff I proposed. Yeah, i did catch
flak for the amount, but can't blame a brother for caring and thinking.

However, I was a bit annoyed. Not at things failing to pass. I was a bit
surprised and perturbed that i was hardly subpoenaed at all in the
convention. 3x in the first night. NONE on Saturday.

I'd like to hear from those on the committees who DIDN'T subpoena me and who
discussed items that didn't make it out of committee. What happened and why?

I especially want to know what happened with extension membership. I heard
it didn't make it out of committee. 10 co-signers and not even a subpoena in
discussion! With that backing and detailed explanation, it must've generated
debate and discussion in committee. I'm amazed I wasn't called in. What's
up?

-Rich "REV" Vehlow


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=639473016-07012003>I was
one of the advisors for the Membership and Extension Committee in New
Orleans.&nbsp; In the case of Extension membership, there were Brothers that
came forward to speak for and against the proposed legislation.&nbsp; After
hearing all of the voluntary testimony, the students on the committee decided
among themselves that they had heard enough testimony to make a decision.&nbsp;
The advisors did point out that if the committee wanted, they could subpoena any
of the authors of the legislation.&nbsp; The committee deliberated some more and
decided that they did have enough information without having to hear from anyone
else.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=639473016-07012003></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=639473016-07012003>My
advice in the future (and Mark may shoot me for suggesting this) would be to
check the doors of the meeting rooms during committee times to see if there is a
sign-up sheet&nbsp;for voluntary speakers.&nbsp; M &amp; E had one posted the
whole time that we referred to.&nbsp; I guarantee that no offense was intended
towards anyone that did not get subpoenaed by the M &amp; E committee and wanted
one.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><!-- Converted from text/rtf format -->
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<P><SPAN lang=en-us><I><FONT face="Times New Roman">Matt Cross</FONT></I></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><I><FONT face="Times New Roman">Section 74 Chair -- Alpha
Phi Omega</FONT></I></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><I><FONT
face="Times New Roman">(888) 270-0074</FONT></I></SPAN> <BR><SPAN
lang=en-us><I><FONT face="Times New Roman"><A
href="mailto:section.74.chair@apo.org">mailto:section.74.chair@apo.org</A></FONT></I></SPAN>
<BR><SPAN lang=en-us><I><FONT face="Times New Roman"><A
href="http://www.section74.org/">http://www.section74.org</A></FONT></I></SPAN>
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<DIV></DIV><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
Alpha Phi Omega Discussion List [mailto:APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Vehlow, Richard<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:55
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Postmortem<BR><BR></FONT></P>
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  <P><FONT size=2>well, another legislative bonanza has come and gone. Not sure
  what passed, but I know a lot didn't, at least of the stuff I proposed. Yeah,
  i did catch flak for the amount, but can't blame a brother for caring and
  thinking.</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>However, I was a bit annoyed. Not at things failing to pass. I
  was a bit surprised and perturbed that i was hardly subpoenaed at all in the
  convention. 3x in the first night. NONE on Saturday. </FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>I'd like to hear from those on the committees who DIDN'T
  subpoena me and who discussed items that didn't make it out of committee. What
  happened and why?</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>I especially want to know what happened with extension
  membership. I heard it didn't make it out of committee. 10 co-signers and not
  even a subpoena in discussion! With that backing and detailed explanation, it
  must've generated debate and discussion in committee. I'm amazed I wasn't
  called in. What's up?</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=2>-Rich "REV" Vehlow</FONT> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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