[23275] in APO-L
Re: [APO-L] Pre-Convention Greetings to my Brothers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kami Bush)
Thu Dec 12 10:26:51 2002
Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 07:26:41 -0800
Reply-To: Kami Bush <kbush123@yahoo.com>
From: Kami Bush <kbush123@yahoo.com>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
In-Reply-To: <238A21E7D4B50A447827642AC5A9777E@JayBEE.25-52.zzn.com>
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Ok so I had decided not to say anything when the original message came out but I have to say one thing. Because as an African American, I don't want to be stereotyped by a thoughtless blanket statement. See statement below.
Joel Bryant:
They would find it an enjoyable experience if they ever took the time to fellowship with us and not believe the rumors or Pre-judge.
Fuzzy Logic:
If any A Phi Que wants to fellowship with me, I would be most happy to do so. I want to understand why people would choose to participate in something that so effectively separates them from the rest of APO.
JayBEE:
The Equation is very simple. Some people do not like rap music. Others can stand it but really don't like to be around it. Still others have heard about it but it really doesn't interest them. Others flip right by it in there quest to find Country music. Not understanding
fundamental differences is the root of misunderstanding. Whether people can stand other is not point. Some individuals would rather be different than be around something that is always attempting to not change the very fiber of their character. This works both ways.
Kami Bush:
First I’ll say this is one of the worst excuses I have ever heard. I must say that rap is not what keeps someone from fellowshipping with A-Phi-Ques. And no one is asking you to change your "character." They are asking you to be open minded. If you can't accept the music the "white" Americans listen to, how can you expect them to accept what "black" Americans listen to? And this saying that "whites" don't listen to rap is crap. I know plenty who do, and who might even own more of it than I do. But I know plenty of "blacks" who don't own a single pop or rock CD, and who don't even given the genres a chance. If you want people to be understanding of you, then you MUST be understanding of them. I don't know why "blacks" feel the need to say that everyone is pushing them out when they don't even try to join in. I personally love rock music, it doesn't run around calling me a bitch or a hoe, and it isn't about unnecessary gang violence, but I can still get my fill of "ang!
ry" music when necessary as well as calming ballads. Give a few bands a listen; the "whites" give yours a listen. I mean if you check your radio dial they are playing some of the same music as the "black" stations are playing, with a mix of other things. JayBEE, I know you are in Atlanta, give Q100.5 and 95.5 THE BEAT a chance and see that a good mix brings people together. Give 99X (99.7) a chance; they play some rap on what is supposed to be a rock station. Give bands like 311, Incubus, and Hoobastank their fair chance before you just throw them to the wind. The people in these music genres know that there is an unnecessary rift between some of the listeners and that some of the listeners have bridged this gap. Look at last summers Sprite Liquid Mixx tour (and no this isn’t a misspelling, that how they spelled it on the signs and tickets.) Nappy Roots, Hoobastank, Jay-Z, N.E.R.D (a good example of rap/rock genre), and 311, all on the same stage working together to at!
tempt to bring together the crowds. It was stated that that is what the whole tour was about, bridging the gap. As I stood there enjoying some of my favorite rock bands, I saw the "blacks" in the crowd sitting down and acting like they were so above the people enjoying the rock bands. But when the rap groups hit the stage everyone, including the "whites," stood up and enjoyed the bands. I'll wrap this up now. You can't expect everyone to come to you. Sometimes you must compromise and come to them. You have to give others a chance if you want them to give you a chance. You can still keep your personality, but you should still add to it by allowing yourself to experience and enjoy other things.
Kami Bush
Mu Mu Alumnus
Section 72 Vice-Chair
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<P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Ok so I had decided not to say anything when the original message came out but I have to say one thing. Because as an African American, I don't want to be stereotyped by a thoughtless blanket statement. See statement below. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Joel Bryant:</SPAN></TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">They would find it an enjoyable experience if they ever took the time to fellowship with us and not believe the rumors or Pre-judge.</SPAN></TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><BR><TT>Fuzzy Logic:</TT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">If any A Phi Que wants to fellowship with me, I would be most happy to do so. I want to understand why people would choose to participate in something that so effectively separates them from the rest of </SPAN></TT><?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place><TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">APO</SPAN></TT></st1:place><TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">.</SPAN></TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><BR><TT>JayBEE:</TT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">The Equation is very simple. Some people do not like rap music. Others can stand it but really don't like to be around it. Still others have heard about it but it really doesn't interest them. Others flip right by it in there quest to find Country music. Not understanding </SPAN></TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'"><BR><TT>fundamental differences is the root of misunderstanding. Whether people can stand other is not point. Some individuals would rather be different than be around something that is always attempting to not change the very fiber of their character. This works both ways.</TT></SPAN><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Kami Bush:</SPAN></TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P><TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">First I’ll say this is one of the worst excuses I have ever heard. I must say that rap is not what keeps someone from fellowshipping with A-Phi-Ques. And no one is asking you to change your "character." They are asking you to be open minded. If you can't accept the music the "white" Americans listen to, how can you expect them to accept what "black" Americans listen to? And this saying that "whites" don't listen to rap is crap. I know plenty who do, and who might even own more of it than I do. But I know plenty of "blacks" who don't own a single pop or rock CD, and who don't even given the genres a chance. If you want people to be understanding of you, then you MUST be understanding of them. I don't know why "blacks" feel the need to say that everyone is pushing them out when they don't even try to join in. I personally love rock music, it doesn't run around calling me a !
bitch or a hoe, and it isn't about unnecessary gang violence, but I can still get my fill of "angry" music when necessary as well as calming ballads. Give a few bands a listen; the "whites" give yours a listen. I mean if you check your radio dial they are playing some of the same music as the "black" stations are playing, with a mix of other things. JayBEE, I know you are in </SPAN></TT><st1:City><st1:place><TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">Atlanta</SPAN></TT></st1:place></st1:City><TT><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt">, give Q100.5 and 95.5 THE BEAT a chance and see that a good mix brings people together.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Give 99X (99.7) a chance; they play some rap on what is supposed to be a rock station. Give bands like 311, Incubus, and Hoobastank their fair chance before you just throw them to the wind. The people in these music genres know that there is an unnecessary rift between some of the listeners and that !
some of the listeners have bridged this gap. Look at last summers Sprite Liquid Mixx tour (and no this isn’t a misspelling, that how they spelled it on the signs and tickets.) Nappy Roots, Hoobastank, Jay-Z, N.E.R.D (a good example of rap/rock genre), and 311, all on the same stage working together to attempt to bring together the crowds. It was stated that that is what the whole tour was about, bridging the gap. As I stood there enjoying some of my favorite rock bands, I saw the "blacks" in the crowd sitting down and acting like they were so above the people enjoying the rock bands. But when the rap groups hit the stage everyone, including the "whites," stood up and enjoyed the bands. I'll wrap this up now. You can't expect everyone to come to you. Sometimes you must compromise and come to them. You have to give others a chance if you want them to give you a chance. You can still keep your personality,!
but you should still add to it by allowing yourself to experience and enjoy other things.</SPAN></TT></P>
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