[23104] in APO-L
[APO-L] Issue One
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (JayBEE!)
Tue Nov 5 23:52:40 2002
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2002 23:52:16 -0500
Reply-To: JayBEE! <JayBEE@25-52.ZZN.COM>
From: JayBEE! <JayBEE@25-52.ZZN.COM>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
<html><head><meta Name='keywords' Content='commtouch, pronto, mail, free email, free, branded, web based, free web based email, communications, internet, software, advertising banners, e-mail, free software'></head><body ><div align='left'><font ><blockquote><blockquote><TT>I sat back and stayed quiet only because I have other pressing <BR>
things to accomplish. <BR>
<BR>
But instead of addressing all issues I can only address the ones <BR>
that are a priority.<BR>
<BR>
<BR>
"Issue One: The Race Card"<BR>
<BR>
What was said-----> "But they what they don't seem to understand <BR>
is that the reason that we are coed is because we don't fall under <BR>
the sames category as SOCIAL GREEKS. When they passed title 9 that<BR>
affected A-Phi-O as a national fraternity. Its not that the <BR>
national office is against the all male chapters at the HBCU's <BR>
is that they are following a federal mandate. So don't try to pull <BR>
that race card." <BR>
<BR>
Title VI only affected institutions that where federally <BR>
funded. Alpha Phi Omega never has been federally funded. There <BR>
are other organizations that have handled this "must be coed" <BR>
differently than Alpha Phi Omega. What they do is allow any <BR>
membership to come into their ranks. There are coed service <BR>
sororities. Alpha Phi Omega does not desire the choice to be <BR>
amongst the students for fear that they may not desire female <BR>
membership. Alpha Phi Omega discourages any group that does not <BR>
conform to a Campus D E M O G R A P H I C S that is simular to the <BR>
campus. For instance. If you have a campus with a huge population, <BR>
you might have 35,000 students with 5,000 black students, 1000 <BR>
hispanics. Most of the time, black crowds are that because they <BR>
have diffeerent interest than white people. If there was a <BR>
bond with 25 black men within that 5,000, Alpha Phi Omega will<BR>
not accept them unless they go get black females and white and <BR>
hispanics males and females. (Of Course this is not just black <BR>
males). I've seen people turned away from chapter creation because <BR>
of their group's demographics. Not because they will get into <BR>
trouble with the federal goverment. Because they will not be <BR>
approved by the National Board. Now how does race play into that? <BR>
Let's look at that senario above. You use to be able to create a <BR>
chapter on campus with the interested personel that applys, now with <BR>
most of the campuses you guarantee that each major campus will have <BR>
white people in it. I do not know if that was the goal or not the <BR>
goal. But that is what the rule changes does. I never had a <BR>
problem with having white people in a chapter that I'm apart of, but <BR>
why do I have to purposely pick people that I have nothing in common <BR>
with to become a part of my group, knowing that they are not going <BR>
to like or be apart of what I do. For instance: Tennessee State <BR>
University has 30 percent white people, and 70% black, however I <BR>
went to a Tenn State University road game and didn't seen any white <BR>
people there. The point is that cultures do not often move in the <BR>
same circles. Every now and then they do. With a black person <BR>
moving out into to white group or a India person moving into a white <BR>
group. But you very seldom see a white person moving into a black <BR>
circle. I'm not saying that the way Alpha Phi Omega is progressing <BR>
it is shaping up to become a white culture only organization. <BR>
Because I recognize that Alpha Phi Omega have several other cultures <BR>
in it, and they are whole, predominatly oneside. But let say San <BR>
francisco State University is predominately Asian, but the campus is <BR>
predominately White. The ruling would guarantee that the chapter be <BR>
predominately white if the chapter ever become inactive. <BR>
<BR>
At this point, I have not heard of any interest group of individuals <BR>
that are mostly black men, that Alpha Phi Omega has accepted has a <BR>
petitioning group and then chapter since 1986.<BR>
<BR>
What was said----->APO is a diverse organization. We accept all, <BR>
regardless of race, creed, color, national origin, etc. My chapter <BR>
is a good illustration of this. We have black, white, hispanic, <BR>
asian, jewish, indian, etc members in our chapter. So don't <BR>
throw 'diversity' into the face of APO. It won't work.<BR>
<BR>
JayBEE:<BR>
Have you been to any of the cultural events within any of those<BR>
races or have you generally been to things that you like? I go back <BR>
to something that I know you didn't understand. I went to school on <BR>
a campus that basically looked white and black. And later I found <BR>
out that there were several hundred asian, hispanic and a host of <BR>
other nationalities on that same campus. 27 that It was. I began <BR>
to realize that asians and hispanics have lives too. Outside of my <BR>
world. They have to have a place of worship, and a place to <BR>
entertain themselves. A place beyond my vison. Because they meet <BR>
each other. And marry each other. My point is that everybody has a <BR>
world that doesn't interest you. People are borned into <BR>
these worlds. These worlds exist in front of you but you still may <BR>
not see them. It's great to have racial diversity, but it is also <BR>
great to have everybody doing what everybody wants to do within a <BR>
culture as well. Yes we can have diversity at the level as we do <BR>
within a chapter, but why don't we trust a individual group to have <BR>
chapter of their own. Especially while they have more incommon <BR>
amoungst themselves than we would ever have with them. <BR>
<BR>
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