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Re: [APO-L] Scouting info taught in pledging

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fuzzy Logic)
Thu May 30 11:48:26 2002

Date:         Thu, 30 May 2002 11:48:13 -0400
Reply-To: Fuzzy Logic <fuzzman@M-NET.ARBORNET.ORG>
From: Fuzzy Logic <fuzzman@M-NET.ARBORNET.ORG>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
In-Reply-To:  <20020530052817.7210.qmail@web13502.mail.yahoo.com>

I knew that someday, my wife would get the first chops in. :)

As a Brother, a former Scout, a Scouter, an Eagle Scout, a member of NESA,
and a member of Order of the Arrow, I do wish to put in my opinions here.

As several people have said, dates of founding of BSA are irrelevant.
The most important things are the principles on which BSA was founded, and
how that led to the principles on which APO was founded.  Mentioning the
early history of Eagle Scouts in APO (and the significance being an Eagle
Scout would also be important, since being an Eagle indicates more than
the usual level of service in a person.  On the same note, we should
include so much more of scouting including Girl Scouts' Gold Award, and
some mention of World Scouting.  Order of the Arrow is worth a mention as
it is an organization which has purpose similar to APO on 2 of its 4
points. (http://www.oa-bsa.org/misc/basics)

- To recognize those Scout campers who best exemplify the Scout Oath and
  Law in their daily lives
- To crystallize the Scout habit of helpfulness into a life purpose of
  leadership in cheerful service to others

While I do not agree with the National Office of BSA on several
significant issues, I still feel that the purpose of BSA (and by
extension, World Scouting) is still, in many ways, the purpose of APO and
the reason why we were founded.

Eric "Fuzzy" Rossman
Section 88 Staff
Life Member

On Wed, 29 May 2002, Christine L. Rossman wrote:

> When I pledged, we were taught the scout oath and law. That seems
> sufficient to me. I don't see how administrative information such as
> headquarters, councils, and the like teaches the spirit of scouting
> that Frank Reed Horton used as his Standard of Manhood.
>
> Christine Rossman
> ADH (SUNY Albany) Alum/Advisor
> Section 88 Staff
> Life Member

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