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[APO-L] FW: History of World Scouting (was Re: Legislation or
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Brown Michael-EMB021)
Tue Jul 25 11:33:52 2000
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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:33:41 -0400
Reply-To: Brown Michael-EMB021 <Michael_Brown-EMB021@EMAIL.MOT.COM>
From: Brown Michael-EMB021 <Michael_Brown-EMB021@EMAIL.MOT.COM>
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> resent, as I forgot my sig
>
> >From: Kevin Yue <kyue@GLUE.UMD.EDU>
> >
> >> I would be very much in favour of such an amendment. Scouting is a
> >> worldwide co-ed movement. In some countries it is segregated by
> >> gender. We only have half of Scouting represented.
> >
> >Do you realize that the BSA was founded on the basis of developing young
> >MEN? The point I'm trying to make with that statement is that the BSA
> >may be the first its kind in the world with Scouting, but when other
> >countries decided to develop their own scouting programs, they did it
> with
> >the vision of developing young people. The Boy Scouts of America are,
> and
> >it is in their policies, there to develop young MEN, which is the reason
> >why they are all-male (well, the direct Scouting line, not exploring or
> >venturing). This is one of the reasons the GSUSA came into existence.
> If
> >the BSA were just Scouts of America, then the GSUSA would probably not
> >exist.
>
> Uh, from your comments I have to assume you know little about the history
> of world scouting.
>
> When B-P establish scouting in the UK it was Boy Scouts. No girls. When
> he found that girls wanted to be in scouting, he established a SEPARATE
> program for them called Girl Guides. Both programs were picked up by
> people in other countries, where they established Boy Scout and Girl Guide
> (or Girl Scout) organizations in their countries. Thus the origin of the
> BSA and GSUSA. All the Boy Scout organizations then formed the World
> Organization of Scouting Movements (WOSM), while the Girl Scout and Girl
> Guides groups formed the World Association of Girl Guides and Girl Scouts
> (WAGGS).
>
> Co-ed programs were a rarity during the time the BSA & GSUSA were formed.
>
> The phenomenon of co-ed scouting is really very recent. Only in the last
> couple of decades have SOME Boy Scout associations in SOME countries
> (about third to two thirds) gone co-ed. In most cases that countries Girl
> Guide/Girl Scout organization STILL exists. Only in 1-2 cases did the Boy
> Scout & Girl Guide/Girl Scout organizations merge (Israel is only example
> I know of). Campfire Girls became Campfire Boys & Girls only in the last
> couple of decades. Exploring went co-ed in 1971.
>
> Thus, despite what some think, the BSA is not some lone hold out of
> male-only scouting.
>
> Also, will most probably know our own organization was male-only until
> 1976. We have a sorority counterpart called Omega Phi Alpha that still
> has a few chapters out there.
>
>
> Michael Brown
> APO LM
> ADT SAA
>
