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Re: A Phi Q, separate organization?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Grossi)
Wed Mar 24 14:11:08 1999

Date:         Wed, 24 Mar 1999 18:59:23 -0500
Reply-To: jgrossi@bbnplanet.com
From: John Grossi <jgrossi@BBNPLANET.COM>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU

several people asked for the citation:

http://www.apo.org/about/pledge/manual.html#p45

-John


John Grossi wrote:
>
> Pledge Manual, page 45, Membership Policies, Section III, part B
>
> -John Grossi
> Section 94 Chairman
> Maine, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Quibec
>
> James Thomas wrote:
> >
> > Randy -
> > >On a different note. all-male chapters going co-ed. After the initial
> > >group of chapters went officially co-ed after the '76 convention there
> > >were still many chapters that remained all-male. Over the years a good
> > >number of them have decided on their own to go co-ed. NONE of these have
> > >been at Historically black campuses. I only know of two co-apters that
> > >have been at historically black insitutions. One is at Dillard where teh
> > >chapter went co-ed after a rechartering  and the other is the chapter at
> > >Howard which somehow managed to recharter in 1986 all-male, but was forced
> > >to go co-ed later when the group had gone down to nothing and was being
> > >revitalized. (By the '76 agreement they should have been co-ed at
> > >rechartering)
> > >
> > My two cents cont:
> >
> > 1) Isn't the intent of the co-ed rule to allow women to join Alpha Phi Omega
> > and not
> > to enforce a quota rule?
> >
> > 2) Isn't enforcing a quota rule on a petitioning group the same as
> > discrimination?
> >
> > 3) If a group at a historically black institution petitions to join APO and
> > is all male due to interest and not due to selective rushing methods do we
> > have the right to turn them down, after all they can be a co-ed chapter and
> > can do co-ed rushing during their scheduled rushing events?
> >
> > 4) If a school has academic rules "written or unwritten" such as you suggest
> > shouldn't the advisors of the chapter and the Section Chair make these rules
> > known to the national office so that special dispensation or another
> > arrangment be made available to all interested parties? After all doesn't
> > the office of the Section Chair and the Regional Director  allow them to
> > discuss with campus officials a way to implement a Co-ed APO on campus?
> >
> > These are my opinions and I remember the old saying from boot everyone has
> > one.  I hope that I have not offended anyone and if I have I sincerely
> > apologize, but I believe that
> > we are here not only today but as our oath implies for tomorrow, esp. the
> > children of tomorrow.
> >
> > James Thomas
> > Alumnus Epsilon Mu
> > Life Member
> > Charter Member National Alumni Association

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