[19394] in APO-L
Alterned History Poll
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ellen d Kranzer)
Sat Oct 17 22:44:03 1998
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 22:43:56 -0400
Reply-To: jaybee3@netscape.net
From: Ellen d Kranzer <ccrazy@WORLD.STD.COM>
To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
I'm forwarding this because it didn't get distributed due to a
technical glitch. Responses should go to Jesse at jaybee3@netscape.net
Y.I.S.
Ellen c.c. Kranzer
APO-L Adminstrator
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I'm forwarding this old history message because I didn't get enough
respo nse.
Actually this message was ignored by all but one person. Why even
have history, if that few amount of people care about the history.
It's not a ll just paperwork, or is it. Are we just consumers of a
marketable product. or is there a real since of derivation. Don't
you want to know? I do. I w ant to know what Frank Reed Horton
actually said. Because from this descrepen cy I can't teach what is
the truth, when the truth may be not be what it seems
Jesse Bridges
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>Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1998 23:04:17 EDT
>Reply-To: Jesse Bridges <Jaybee3@NETSCAPE.NET>
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>From: Jesse Bridges <Jaybee3@NETSCAPE.NET>
>Subject: [APO-L] [APO] Altered History Poll
>To: APO-L@LISTSERV.IUPUI.EDU
Somebody, Hawkeye, I think it was stated that the history has always been
the same. That's why I think you should know what some of you may
not have k nown. The history is the background of the organization.
Changing it is like covering your tracks. Because, you give it to
people who may never know how it sang.
I want to conduct a poll and please send it to me and I will display resu
lts.
Which rendition should we keep? I said "should" because I know that the
re is
still don't believe is the heritage of this organization. If they did, no
t a
word spoken by FRANK REED HORTON to himself, would have changed. You wou
ld
not change the red-letters in the bible to suit what you believe in, woul
d
you? Who knows? I would love to see earlier manuals. When did our hist
ory
start changing and what did Mr. Horton really say?
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Within the "THE STORY OF THE FOUNDING" Section of the Pledge Manual of to
day.
The Version of 1996 maybe. May have been further back. Please confirm d
ate.
Copied from the manual.
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DURING THE FIRST WORLD WAR, I served as an ensign in the United States
Na vy aboard a minesweeper in the North Sea. Our ship and its partner
exploded more than 1,000 magnetic mines. My law school background at
Boston University led to my appointment to try court-martial cases in
our Division. When we rea ched ports some of the sailors ran
wild. Many court-martial cases resulted. I saw young boys in their
teens getting into trouble.
Because of these experiences, I made a firm resolution within myself that
if I returned alive I would try to do two things and do them with all
my power : First, do my best to help young people get the right start
in life, by ho lding up before them a "standard of manhood" that would
withstand the test of t ime! Second and just as important, try to
help the nations of the world settle
their disputes in a more sensible and legal manner than by war.
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Within the "OUR HERITAGE" Section of the Pledge Manual.
The Version of 1979 to my knowledge. May have been further back. Please
confirm orginality. Copied from the manual.
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It is the FIRST WORLD WAR. A young naval attorney stands in the the
court room listening as, one after another, there unfolds before his
eyes, the sad s tory of Americans sailors who had gotten into trouble
while on leave in a fore ign port. For many of them, it means the loss
of precious civil rights.
Listening to their stories, this naval officer makes a firm resolution
t o himself:
- - ------If I return alive to the United States, I will do my utmost to help
- - ------young men get the right start in life, by holding before them a "
- - ------standard of manhood" that will withstand the test of time.
He also resolves to do all that he can to help the nations of the
world s ettle their disputes by means other than war:
- - ------I had been learning, at the Boston University Law School, how to
- - ------help people settle their differences in a just and legal manner.
- - ------Now I was thrown into a war, where nations where resolving their
- - ------differences by killing each other. It all seemed so senseless.
- - ------There must be a better way to resolve international differences.
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Please don't ignore these changes. Or don't say that "So what, the
histo ry doesn't make that much of a difference"
Thank you for your considerations
Jesse
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