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To: Alexander Chernyakhovsky <achernya@mit.edu>
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I think the 2007/2008 backups listed are likely on DLT tape. I =
wouldn=E2=80=99t expect them to be easily restorable - it might behoove =
us to purge them rather than keeping them in a =E2=80=9Chuge amount of =
effort to restore=E2=80=9D state.
AFS backup dumps aren=E2=80=99t indexed externally; you need to restore =
and mount them to list files.
But, the BUDB data does give a size (take 9 zeros off to get Gb):
### AFS ### #cfox@cfox-dev-app-1#~$ for i in 1189336344 1202645565 =
1205147569 1742038507 1747308907; do
> backup dumpinfo -id $i -cell sipb | grep slippery
> done
860 09/09/2007 02:32 2469378 user.slippery.backup
469 02/10/2008 02:33 2469378 user.slippery.backup
200 03/10/2008 02:33 2469378 user.slippery.backup
1243 03/15/2025 02:29 2471840 user.slippery.backup
618 05/15/2025 02:30 2471839 user.slippery.backup
and the size of the volume didn=E2=80=99t change substantially between =
2007 and today, so I don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s worth chasing =
these - whatever was in that volume in 2007 is still there today.
I don=E2=80=99t see any Athena cell data under that username (we have =
some historical volume indexing in the Athena cell) so it=E2=80=99s not =
lurking there. Many of the things IS&T takes backups of have a max of =
five years retention. I don=E2=80=99t think we have it.
-Cam
> On Jul 17, 2025, at 7:50=E2=80=AFPM, Alex Chernyakhovsky =
<achernya@mit.edu> wrote:
>=20
> Adding sipb-afsreq, since I've never actually done such a restore =
myself.
>=20
> -Alex
>=20
> On Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 7:49=E2=80=AFPM Sam Lippert =
<samlippert@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>=20
> I have gained access to my Athena account, but the files I am looking =
for aren't there. Is it possible to get a full directory and file =
listing of what is on the oldest backup? =20
>=20
> Sam
>=20
>=20
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 8:37=E2=80=AFPM Alex Chernyakhovsky =
<achernya@mit.edu> wrote:
> Hi Sam,
>=20
> Please reach out to helpdesk@mit.edu for assistance resetting your =
password.
>=20
> Sincerely,
> -Alex
>=20
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 8:36=E2=80=AFPM Sam Lippert =
<samlippert@gmail.com> wrote:
> the $64,000 question is: how do I access /afs/sipb/user/slippery? I =
don't remember my password or anything. I think the last time I accessed =
was via telnet in the late 1990s
>=20
> http://about.me/samlippert
>=20
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 20:30 Alex Chernyakhovsky <achernya@mit.edu> =
wrote:
> Hi Sam,
>=20
> The terminology went from (prospective, member) to (member, keyholder) =
sometime in the 2010s. So if you remember being a member, you are what's =
now called a keyholder. I'm guessing your username was "slippery"? I do =
so /afs/sipb/user/slippery, and weirdly enough that account has no IS&T =
Athena homedir, just a sipb.mit.edu one. Assuming I got the username =
right, it does look like the following backups exist:
>=20
> achernya@hackapult:~$ backup volinfo -c sipb.mit.edu -volume =
user.slippery
> DumpID lvl parentID creation date clone date tape name
> 1749987308 0 0 06/15/2025 07:35 06/15/2025 02:29 =
sipb-all.full.1 (1749987308)
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(1204546351)
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(1202040770)
> 1201435959 0 0 01/27/2008 07:12 01/27/2008 02:35 SIPB.007 =
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>=20
> in addition to whatever is currently present in =
/afs/sipb/user/slippery
>=20
> Sincerely,
> -Alex
>=20
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 8:20=E2=80=AFPM Sam Lippert =
<samlippert@gmail.com> wrote:
> I do not specifically remember being a key holder, but I do remember =
being on the sipb.mit.edu AFS cell.
>=20
>=20
> http://about.me/samlippert
>=20
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 20:15 Alex Chernyakhovsky <achernya@mit.edu> =
wrote:
> Hi Sam,
>=20
> Were you a member or a keyholder? Keyholders have space provisioned on =
the sipb.mit.edu AFS cell, in addition to their IS&T Athena homedir.
>=20
> If you were a member, then you only have an IS&T Athena homedir, in =
which case you need to contact helpdesk@mit.edu for assistance.
>=20
> Sincerely,
> -Alex
>=20
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 6:24=E2=80=AFPM Sam Lippert =
<samlippert@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am a former SIPB member, and I had a SIPB hosted Athena account. I =
had some files on that account that I cannot find any of my backups for. =
Is there any chance that those files are available, either on a current =
server or as an archive? My username was slippery.
>=20
> Thank you,
>=20
> Sam Lippert
>=20
> --=20
>=20
> http://about.me/samlippert
>=20
>=20
> --=20
>=20
> http://about.me/samlippert
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