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Re: Question...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alex Chernyakhovsky)
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From: "Alex Chernyakhovsky" <achernya@mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2025 19:50:43 -0400
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Subject: Re: Question...
To: Sam Lippert <samlippert@gmail.com>
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Adding sipb-afsreq, since I've never actually done such a restore myself.
-Alex
On Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 7:49=E2=80=AFPM Sam Lippert <samlippert@gmail.com> wr=
ote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> I have gained access to my Athena account, but the files I am looking for
> aren't there. Is it possible to get a full directory and file listing of
> what is on the oldest backup?
>
> Sam
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 8:37=E2=80=AFPM Alex Chernyakhovsky <achernya@mit=
.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Sam,
>>
>> Please reach out to helpdesk@mit.edu for assistance resetting your
>> password.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> -Alex
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 8:36=E2=80=AFPM Sam Lippert <samlippert@gmail.com>=
wrote:
>>
>>> the $64,000 question is: how do I access /afs/sipb/user/slippery? I
>>> don't remember my password or anything. I think the last time I accesse=
d
>>> was via telnet in the late 1990s
>>>
>>> http://about.me/samlippert
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 20:30 Alex Chernyakhovsky <achernya@mit.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Sam,
>>>>
>>>> The terminology went from (prospective, member) to (member, keyholder)
>>>> sometime in the 2010s. So if you remember being a member, you are what=
's
>>>> now called a keyholder. I'm guessing your username was "slippery"? I d=
o
>>>> so /afs/sipb/user/slippery, and weirdly enough that account has no IS&=
T
>>>> Athena homedir, just a sipb.mit.edu one. Assuming I got the username
>>>> right, it does look like the following backups exist:
>>>>
>>>> achernya@hackapult:~$ backup volinfo -c sipb.mit.edu -volume
>>>> user.slippery
>>>> DumpID lvl parentID creation date clone date tape name
>>>> 1749987308 0 0 06/15/2025 07:35 06/15/2025 02:29
>>>> sipb-all.full.1 (1749987308)
>>>> 1747308907 0 0 05/15/2025 07:35 05/15/2025 02:30
>>>> sipb-all.full.1 (1747308907)
>>>> 1744716908 0 0 04/15/2025 07:35 04/15/2025 02:29
>>>> sipb-all.full.1 (1744716908)
>>>> 1742038507 0 0 03/15/2025 07:35 03/15/2025 02:29
>>>> sipb-all.full.1 (1742038507)
>>>> 1205147569 0 0 03/10/2008 07:12 03/10/2008 02:33 SIPB.005
>>>> (1205147569)
>>>> 1204546351 0 0 03/03/2008 07:12 03/03/2008 02:33 SIPB.003
>>>> (1204546351)
>>>> 1203855155 0 0 02/24/2008 07:12 02/24/2008 02:33 SIPB.001
>>>> (1203855155)
>>>> 1203250355 0 0 02/17/2008 07:12 02/17/2008 02:33 SIPB.013
>>>> (1203250355)
>>>> 1202645565 0 0 02/10/2008 07:12 02/10/2008 02:33 SIPB.011
>>>> (1202645565)
>>>> 1202040770 0 0 02/03/2008 07:12 02/03/2008 02:35 SIPB.016
>>>> (1202040770)
>>>> 1201435959 0 0 01/27/2008 07:12 01/27/2008 02:35 SIPB.007
>>>> (1201435959)
>>>> 1189336344 0 0 09/09/2007 07:12 09/09/2007 02:32 SIPB.010
>>>> (1189336344)
>>>>
>>>> in addition to whatever is currently present in /afs/sipb/user/slipper=
y
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> -Alex
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 8:20=E2=80=AFPM Sam Lippert <samlippert@gmail.co=
m> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I do not specifically remember being a key holder, but I do remember
>>>>> being on the sipb.mit.edu AFS cell.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://about.me/samlippert
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 20:15 Alex Chernyakhovsky <achernya@mit.edu>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Sam,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Were you a member or a keyholder? Keyholders have space provisioned
>>>>>> on the sipb.mit.edu AFS cell, in addition to their IS&T Athena
>>>>>> homedir.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you were a member, then you only have an IS&T Athena homedir, in
>>>>>> which case you need to contact helpdesk@mit.edu for assistance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> -Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 6:24=E2=80=AFPM Sam Lippert <samlippert@gmail.=
com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am a former SIPB member, and I had a SIPB hosted Athena account.
>>>>>>> I had some files on that account that I cannot find any of my backu=
ps for.
>>>>>>> Is there any chance that those files are available, either on a cur=
rent
>>>>>>> server or as an archive? My username was slippery.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sam Lippert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://about.me/samlippert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>
> --
>
> http://about.me/samlippert
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Adding sipb-afsreq, since I've never actually done su=
ch a restore myself.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">-Alex</di=
v></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Jul 17, 2025, 7:49=E2=80=AFPM Sam Lippert &=
lt;<a href=3D"mailto:samlippert@gmail.com">samlippert@gmail.com</a>> wro=
te:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;b=
order-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Alex,<div><=
br></div><div>I have gained access to my Athena account, but the files I am=
looking for aren't there.=C2=A0 Is it possible to get a full directory=
and file listing of what is on the oldest backup?=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><b=
r></div><div>Sam</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 14, 2025 at 8:37=E2=80=AFP=
M Alex Chernyakhovsky <<a href=3D"mailto:achernya@mit.edu" target=3D"_bl=
ank" rel=3D"noreferrer">achernya@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Sam,<div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Please reach out to <a href=3D"mailto=
:helpdesk@mit.edu" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">helpdesk@mit.edu</a=
> for assistance resetting your password.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">Sincerely,</div><div dir=3D"auto">-Alex</div></div><br><d=
iv class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul =
14, 2025, 8:36=E2=80=AFPM Sam Lippert <<a href=3D"mailto:samlippert@gmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">samlippert@gmail.com</a>> wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D=
"auto"><div>the $64,000 question is: how do I access /<span style=3D"font-s=
ize:12.8px">afs/sipb/user/slippery? I don't remember my password or any=
thing. I think the last time I accessed was via telnet in the late 1990s</s=
pan></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><a href=3D"http://about.me/s=
amlippert" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://about.me/=
samlippert</a><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 20:30 Alex Chernyakhovs=
ky <<a href=3D"mailto:achernya@mit.edu" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">achernya@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Sam,=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">The terminology went from (pr=
ospective, member) to (member, keyholder) sometime in the 2010s. So if you =
remember being a member, you are what's now called a keyholder. I'm=
guessing your username was "slippery"? I do so=C2=A0/afs/sipb/us=
er/slippery, and weirdly enough that account has no IS&T Athena homedir=
, just a <a href=3D"http://sipb.mit.edu" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noref=
errer" target=3D"_blank">sipb.mit.edu</a> one. Assuming I got the username =
right, it does look like the following backups exist:<br><br>achernya@hacka=
pult:~$ backup volinfo -c <a href=3D"http://sipb.mit.edu" rel=3D"noreferrer=
noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">sipb.mit.edu</a> -volume user.sli=
ppery<br>DumpID =C2=A0 =C2=A0lvl parentID creation date =C2=A0 =C2=A0 clone=
date =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 tape name<br>1749987308 0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 06/15/2025 07:35 =C2=A006/15/2025 02:29 sipb-all.full.1 (1749=
987308)<br>1747308907 0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 05/15/2025 07:3=
5 =C2=A005/15/2025 02:30 sipb-all.full.1 (1747308907)<br>1744716908 0 =C2=
=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 04/15/2025 07:35 =C2=A004/15/2025 02:29 si=
pb-all.full.1 (1744716908)<br>1742038507 0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 03/15/2025 07:35 =C2=A003/15/2025 02:29 sipb-all.full.1 (1742038507)<br=
>1205147569 0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 03/10/2008 07:12 =C2=A003=
/10/2008 02:33 SIPB.005 (1205147569)<br>1204546351 0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 03/03/2008 07:12 =C2=A003/03/2008 02:33 SIPB.003 (1204546351)=
<br>1203855155 0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 02/24/2008 07:12 =C2=
=A002/24/2008 02:33 SIPB.001 (1203855155)<br>1203250355 0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 02/17/2008 07:12 =C2=A002/17/2008 02:33 SIPB.013 (1203=
250355)<br>1202645565 0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 02/10/2008 07:1=
2 =C2=A002/10/2008 02:33 SIPB.011 (1202645565)<br>1202040770 0 =C2=A00 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 02/03/2008 07:12 =C2=A002/03/2008 02:35 SIPB.016 (=
1202040770)<br>1201435959 0 =C2=A00 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 01/27/2008 =
07:12 =C2=A001/27/2008 02:35 SIPB.007 (1201435959)<br>1189336344 0 =C2=A00 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 09/09/2007 07:12 =C2=A009/09/2007 02:32 SIPB.01=
0 (1189336344)<br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div>in addition to wha=
tever is currently present in /afs/sipb/user/slippery</div><div><br></div><=
div>Sincerely,</div><div>-Alex</div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 8:20=E2=80=
=AFPM Sam Lippert <<a href=3D"mailto:samlippert@gmail.com" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">samlippert@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=
=3D"auto"><div>I do not specifically remember being a key holder,=C2=A0 but=
I do remember being on the <a href=3D"http://sipb.mit.edu" rel=3D"noreferr=
er noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">sipb.mit.edu</a> AFS=
cell.</div><div><br></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><a href=3D"=
http://about.me/samlippert" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">http://about.me/samlippert</a><br></div></div></div>=
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon=
, Jul 14, 2025, 20:15 Alex Chernyakhovsky <<a href=3D"mailto:achernya@mi=
t.edu" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank=
">achernya@mit.edu</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);=
padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Hi Sam,<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div=
dir=3D"auto">Were you a member or a keyholder? Keyholders have space provi=
sioned on the <a href=3D"http://sipb.mit.edu" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer =
noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">sipb.mit.edu</a> AFS ce=
ll, in addition to their IS&T Athena homedir.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><b=
r></div><div dir=3D"auto">If you were a member, then you only have an IS&am=
p;T Athena homedir, in which case you need to contact <a href=3D"mailto:hel=
pdesk@mit.edu" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferre=
r" target=3D"_blank">helpdesk@mit.edu</a> for assistance.</div><div dir=3D"=
auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Sincerely,</div><div dir=3D"auto">-Alex</=
div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_at=
tr">On Mon, Jul 14, 2025, 6:24=E2=80=AFPM Sam Lippert <<a href=3D"mailto=
:samlippert@gmail.com" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">samlippert@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-l=
eft:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I am=
a former SIPB member, and I had a SIPB hosted Athena account.=C2=A0 I had =
some files on that account that I cannot find any of my backups for.=C2=A0 =
Is there any chance that those files are available, either on a current ser=
ver or as an archive?=C2=A0 My username was slippery.</div><div><br></div><=
div>Thank you,</div><div><br></div><div>Sam Lippert</div><div><br></div><sp=
an class=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><a href=3D"http://about.m=
e/samlippert" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer=
noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://about.me/samlippert</a><br></div></di=
v></div>
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</blockquote></div><div><br clear=3D"all"></div><div><br></div><span class=
=3D"gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_s=
ignature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br></div><a href=3D"http://about.me/samlip=
pert" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">http://about.me/samlippert</a><b=
r></div></div>
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