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Re: Upgrades

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathon Weiss)
Tue Oct 18 19:45:08 1994

To: Matt Braun <mhbraun@MIT.EDU>
Cc: star-maintainers@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 13 Oct 1994 17:40:28 EDT."
             <199410132140.RAA04036@medic.MIT.EDU> 
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 19:41:47 EDT
From: Jonathon Weiss <jweiss@MIT.EDU>


Sketchy meeting minutes:

We started at about 10:20 on 10/17/94

What is a reasonable migration schedule for the SS20's
	ghudson: not predictable, we are a volunteer group

	beacon: a few things left to do, there will be a bit of
		work at the actual migration time: We will need 
		to rebuild the spool, so someone doesn't lose

	rtfm:   need to coordinate w/ news.answers to get
		things tested and do the actual move

	rtfm needs to move soon, p-lust probably won't support
	WAIS even tho it is an SS20, too big a DB.

	discussions of secure access to p-lust for *.answers
	mumble Skey mumble mumble srvtab mumble mumble


	remember 10% of the effort gets you 90% of the way there

	to migrate bed we need among other things 2 freed gig 
	disks for the news spool (currently planning on 
	1 from current beacon and one from current rtfm)

	What about moving the disks we have?  Can we use the
	filesystem we already have? Probably not, but we should
	check.

	Secondary services
	(ie., those waiting for free maxines)
	We want to make rosebud go away,
	nothing else is really pressing



What's happening to DS3100
	it's going back, we may be able
	to keep it for testing, but not necessarily
	it is on self-maint now (dcns-cluster supplies
	parts when they die, this will last till the
	summer?)



AFS disk
	Should we use the internals?
	(on the maxines)

	how about we use them for local binaries instead
	help, I've fallen and I can't get up
	tlyu will look into this

	ghudson doesn't trust the RZ25's
	if serving them causes the disk to lose
	it will cause an outage

	decision: don't server the internal disks


	Buying Disks

	9G?
	mhbraun: 1 spool, slow
	yandros: ditto

	yoav: according to Jeremy someone the 9G disks aren't 
	as reliable as the 2G or 4G ones

	9G: also all eggs in one basket

	9G: $3500 no contract 35c-40c/G
	4G  $2600  "    "     ~60c/G

	AFS has a limit of 2G/partition
	limit of 8partitions/device

	jweiss: What about getting server hardware from IS
	(we haven't gotten any in FY1995)
	(FY '95 = 7/94-6/95)

	It will take them time to get us the disks

	Is the cell that full?

	Yes, there are things that would be added now,
		but for lack of space

	mumble mumble what size disk to ask for

	ghudson and mhbraun: will talk to Lorraine about
	getting a 4G disk

What else will we need to upgrade in FY95

	WWW is hosed

	wait till FY96, demand will rise to meet resources

	probably need to replace in FY 95

	Does IS want us providing WWW services
	(will they continue to give us hardware for it)

	Yes.  The feeling is that IS is handling the 
	official MIT page, but SIPB has more interesting
	stuff for students, etc.


	Waht about adding CPU's / RAM to the SS20's
	Can we add CPU's under SunOS?
	The mailhubs have

	yandros: Ask IS for a fast Pentium for a server?
	what OS?
	Linux or NetBSD

	ghudson: Pentium 90 for WWW would be interesting.

	pentium would be a cheap server, but would have
	to be experimental in some ways

	SGI's???
	not reasonable server platform right now

	Whatever we get has to be able to do LOTS of net and disk I/O

	So, what DO we want
	definately something to replace or split the load with our
		Web server.
	maybe some disks for non-AFS (news, beacon, less likely rtfm)

	What about another tape drive, there have been conflicts.
	Maybe if it falls out of the sky
	maybe we can buy it from our budget, if we get the disk from IS


What about FY96?
	We sould upgrade the maxines
	We can't plan that far ahead


Some other stuff I no doubt missed

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