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Re: linuxbin vs. inbsdbin

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Yoav Yerushalmi)
Fri Jan 26 15:36:01 1996

To: Derek W Truesdale <derekt@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Yoav Yerushalmi <yoav@MIT.EDU>, netbsd-help@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 26 Jan 1996 15:08:36 EST."
             <199601262008.PAA12635@le-mien.MIT.EDU> 
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 15:31:45 EST
From: Yoav Yerushalmi <yoav@MIT.EDU>

well, there is no 100% proof way of finding out who maintains a locker.

The first thing to do is look for a README in the toplevel of the locker.
in this case (outland) thereis one there, and it suggests mail should
go to
	bug-outland@mit.edu

However, this may sometimes fail, so the next thing to do is check
whether there is a mailing list with the name bug-{locker},
{locker}-admin, or locker-{request}. to check for those, you can use
a program in the consult locker called 'expn'. so for example,
	expn outland-request
returns
220 MIT.EDU Sendmail 5.61/1.1 (MIT Mailhub) No collect or third-number calls 
at Fri, 26 Jan 96 15:26:55 EST
250 MIT.EDU Hello  (I-SEE-EVERYTHING-TWICE.MIT.EDU), pleased to meet you
550 outland-request... User unknown
221 MIT.EDU closing connection


note the user unknown. if it exists, you should get a list of who is on the
list. Sending mail to that list would then probably be the right next thing
to do.


Finally, if none of those work, you could try and find out who has write
access to the locker. to do so, you 
	cd into the locker  ( cd /mit/outland )
	fs la there, in outland, you should get:
		Access list for . is
		Normal rights:
		  system:outland rlidwk
		  system:gsipbbin rlidwka
		  system:anyuser rl
	this suggests people on system:gsipbbin and system:outland could
be the right people to contact (they're not). again, you should check if a
mailing list named gsipbbin or outland exists, and then send mail to those.
if they don't seem to exist, then you are going to need to get a list
of members of the afs group. to do that, you can try

		pts mem {groupname}    (you will sometimes need to add
					-c {cell} if it is not in the
					athena cell.)

so, for the system:outland, you can do:

		pts mem system:outland -c sipb
which will give you a list of people in that group, and you can send them
mail.


Perhaps this is why README's in the locker should exist everywhere  :-)

	-- yoav

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