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Re: source routing

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ryan Tucker)
Mon Sep 18 11:14:32 1995

From: Ryan Tucker <rtucker@crasher2.ttgcitn.com>
To: linas@teleportal.com (Linas Vepstas)
Date: Sun, 17 Sep 1995 12:18:20 -0500 (CDT)
Cc: linux-security@tarsier.cv.nrao.edu, linas@teleportal.com
In-Reply-To: <199509161957.OAA06873@teleportal.com> from "Linas Vepstas" at Sep 16, 95 02:57:36 pm

[mod: please let's keep this focused on the source route issue. Routing
	policy on the Internet is a bit off-topic. --okir]

Linas Vepstas splattered this onto /dev/hda4:
> some point (typically 20 or more hops away).  By 
> "infinite loop" I mean that the same router starts 
> showing up over and over again, with no appearent
> forward progress of the packet.  What does this 
> mean??

It means that the router is grossly misconfigured.  Last time I saw a problem
like that, it turned out that a run of fiber was cut.  The time before that?
Reconfigured with a direct lightning hit.

> So it would seem my packets left austin, went to houston, 
> bounced around the country for a while, and 
> finally came back to austin via houston. (Is that 
> why my internet provider charges those fees?)

Typical.  The Internet is not geographically-based.  For example, a trip of
about 4 inches between two machines in my office goes through Des Moines,
Kansas City, Willow Springs, Denver, back to Des Moines, and to my other
machine.

> Seriously, though -- should I assume that someone
> has a packet sniffer installed on one of these
> machines, and is listening to everything I say?

It's always possible.  If anything, the packets not getting to your destination
lessens the possibility slightly.

> Should I be worried for any reason?  Should I be 
> disabling something in my kernel? Is this what 
> happens when you don't ignore ICMP redirect messages?

I get it here.  Lots of weird errors in syslog.

Sep 17 12:08:41 crasher2 icmpinfo: ICMP_Dest_Unreachable[--Sub-Type-OUT-OF-RANGE--] < 128.241.4.162 [DELL-S0.SESQUI.NET] > 143.166.213.152 sp=47818 dp=33478 seq=0x00140000 sz=36(+20)
Sep 17 12:08:44 crasher2 kernel: ICMP: 143.166.213.152: Source Route Failed.

Nothing looks excessively nasty, since (i may [and probably am] be wrong)
the Source Route Failed message seems to come from 143.166.213.152, the broked
router.  At least it wasn't misconfigured with a stray lightning bolt.

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