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Re: Exabyte 8[25]00 8mm Tape drives & 53c810a , Troubles ?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mr. James W. Laferriere)
Thu Dec 24 23:47:23 1998

Date: 	Thu, 24 Dec 1998 20:43:11 -0800 (PST)
From: "Mr. James W. Laferriere" <babydr@nwrain.net>
Reply-To: "Mr. James W. Laferriere" <babydr@nwrain.net>
To: Richard Waltham <dormouse@farsrobt.demon.co.uk>
cc: groudier@club-internet.fr, linux-scsi@vger.rutgers.edu
In-Reply-To: <199812230039.AAA21968@farsrobt.demon.co.uk>


	Hello Richard,  Thank you for the response . More below.

On Wed, 23 Dec 1998, Richard Waltham wrote:
> Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote:
> > 	Hello Gerard , Please find below a dmesg from a very bad tar
> > 	attempt to the tape drive mentioned .  Also I tried the 8500
> > 	everything else same except used 8500 instead . IE:
> > 
> >   Vendor: EXABYTE   Model: EXB-850085QANXRC  Rev: 06X0
> >   Type:   Sequential-Access                  ANSI SCSI revision: 02
> > 
> > 	Command used :
> > 
> > 	tar --same-owner -cpf /dev/st0 /etc/passwd /[0-9A-Za-oq-z]*
> > 
> > 	a few minutes after the 'command processing resumed' 
> > 	the timeouts resumed & didn't stop , truth be told couldn't
> > 	be stopped with out 'reset switch' . :-{
> 
> As the tape drive is on a different controller to the disks and it is the
> disks timing out I would suspect a problem with the controller/scsi bus the
> disks are on, not the tape unit.
	OK quite poss. this is a strange setup here .  But is supposed
	to be ok as is . See below .
	Though I have tried this command as a test to verify that I can
	read the two filesystems at load .  No errors were reported
	during the below or any troubles with the scsi-chain . :-}

	tar --same-owner -cpf /dev/null /etc/passwd /[0-9A-Za-oq-z]*

> I use an almost identical exb-8500, slightly different firmware level, with
> no problems. My disk is on its own controller SYM8951U and tape and CD on a
> second controller SYM8751SP - similar, but not identical, set up to yours.
	Mine is a FirePort-40(875J) & Asus-SC200(810a)
	          io 0x6200           io 0x6100        sharing irq9

> A typical set up that is almost certain to generate timeouts is to have disk
> and tape on the same bus with the tape set up to _not_ disconnect. However
> with the tape on a different controller to the disks it is possible to set
> the tape to disconnect or not disconnect and there should be no timeouts.
>
> I would check out the disk scsi bus just in case you disturbed something
> when adding the tape unit.
	The 810 has been the original ctrlr in this system since it was
	built ,  I added the 875j  a few months back & at that time had
	a bit of trouble with -sssllllllooooooooowwwwwwwwwww- boots .
	Until someone pointed out the lilo 'compact' option which speeded
	boot times up to normal .

> Bye for now
> Richard
 ...snip...
> -- 
>  Richard Waltham   |              Work: richard@digitalinterface.demon.co.uk
>    At home in      |              Home:        dormouse@farsrobt.demon.co.uk
>  Southampton UK    |                              100421.1276@compuserve.com
 				Tia, JimL
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-------------------------------+	PC , Personal Computer ;-)
 PC        +---+               |	HD , Scsi Hard Disk
+----+     |HD |               |	CD , Scsi CDrom
| HD |     | T |               |	TD , Scsi Tape Drive
| T  |     +-+-+   +-----------+	N  , Narrow Connections
+-++-+       +-----| N         | n/c	W  , Wide Connections
  ++===============| W 53c875J |	T  , Terminations
+----+             +-----------+
| CD |                         |
| T  |             +-----------+
+-++-+             |  N only   |       +-------+
  +----------------|  53c810A  |------++T  TD  |
                   +-----------+       +-------+
                               |
-------------------------------+


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