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Re: Help with SCSI card

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kurt Garloff)
Wed Dec 23 17:16:43 1998

Date: 	Wed, 23 Dec 1998 21:08:44 +0100
From: Kurt Garloff <garloff@kg1.ping.de>
To: ehegstrom@sonoranscanners.com,
        Rasana Atreya <rasana@flowerpot.corp.sgi.com>
Cc: linux-scsi@vger.rutgers.edu
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	Rasana Atreya <rasana@flowerpot.corp.sgi.com>,
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In-Reply-To: <3681237C.842D79AC@sonoranscanners.com>; from Eric Hegstrom on Wed, Dec 23, 1998 at 10:08:12AM -0700

On Wed, Dec 23, 1998 at 10:08:12AM -0700, Eric Hegstrom wrote:
> 68 to 50 adaptor. The upper data lines don't get terminated in this case
> as in this diagram:
> 
>                                  ___________           ___________
> ____                             | 68 to   |           |  narrow  |
> PC |  68 pin wide                | 50 pin  |           |terminator|
>    |----------+----------+-------| adaptor |           | as is    |
>    |----------|-+--------|-+-----|---------|---+-------|inside the|
>    |          | |        | |     |_________|   |       |___ZIP____|
> ___|          | |        | |                   |
>             __|_|___   __|_|___             ___|______
>             | wide |   | wide |             | narrow |
>             |  HD  |   |  HD  |             | (ZIP?) |
>             |______|   |______|             |________|
> 

There are 68 to 50 pin adapters with (active) termination of the higher lines.

>   
> IMHO the only way to go is to use the adatpor to hang it off the scsi
> and us an external wide terminator as in:
> 
>                                                         ___________
> ____                                                   |  wide    |
> PC |  68 pin wide                                      |terminator|
>    |----------+----------+--------------+--------------|          |
>    |----------|-+--------|-+------------|-+------------|          |
>    |          | |        | |            | |            |__________|
> ___|          | |        | |            | |
>             __|_|___   __|_|___       __|_|____
>             | wide |   | wide |       | 68 to  |
>             |  HD  |   |  HD  |       | 50 pin |
>             |______|   |______|       | adaptor|
>                                       |________|
>                                           |
>                                       ____|_____
>                                       | narrow |
>                                       | (ZIP?) |
>                                       | device |
>                                       |________|

This is a bit dangerous, as you created a T-like connection for the ZIP
drive. It might work, if the cable length between the connection to the main
line and the ZIP is very short.

If your 68 to 50 adapter does fancy things such as ground lines, you're lost
in any case.

So, get a good 68 to 50 (i.e. with act. termination) and use the above setup.

I guess the poster wants to use another setup:



-------------------------------------+
 PC                                  |
                                     |
+----+     +----+		     |	            +---+     +---+
| HD |     | HD |        +-----------+              | ? |     |ZIP|
|    |     |    |        |           |   +----+     |   |     |   |
+-++-+     +-++-+        |           |   | 68 |     +-+-+     +-+-+
  ++=========++============= DC390F ========----------+---------+
                         | Sym53c875 |   | 50 |
Terminated!		 |           |   +----+             Terminated!
			 +-----------+
			             |
				     |
-------------------------------------+

This will work. If the 68 to 50 is crap, you might still be lucky and have
the 53c875 autodetect this and terminate the high lines for you.

Success!
-- 
Kurt Garloff <K.Garloff@ping.de>  (Dortmund, FRG)
PGP key on http://student.physik.uni-dortmund.de/homepages/garloff

 There is  something  frustrating  about  the quality  and  speed  of  Linux
 development.  I.e. the quality  is too high  and the speed  is too high, in
 other words,  I  can implement  this XXXX feature,  but I bet  someone else
 has already done it and is just about to release his patch to Linus soon...
    [From a posting of Tigran Aivazian to linux-kernel, XXXX = disk stat]

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