[3251] in linux-net channel archive
Re: Bug in 1.2.13 firewall?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Kevin M Bealer)
Mon Jun 17 02:15:05 1996
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 1996 01:09:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kevin M Bealer <kmb203@psu.edu>
To: Dennis <dennis@etinc.com>
cc: Mike Kilburn <mike@lserv.conexio.co.za>, linux-net@vger.rutgers.edu
In-Reply-To: <199606170116.VAA00142@etinc.com>
On Sun, 16 Jun 1996, Dennis wrote:
> >> >dennis@etinc.com (Dennis)
> >
> >> and there isn't enough difference between decent hardware to get
> >> people to buy your product without a price war. If we made source available,
> >
> >The difference is quality, support, service and people.
(of the hardware vendors I have called, most seemed to have abandoned these
strategies... although occassionally I hear a good report from someone...)
> >I suspect your going to run into some problems next year because there
> >will be free frame relay for Linux in 97.
>
> Case and point. We sell twice as many LINUX boards as FreeBSD, but our
^^^^^^1^^^^^^
> FreeBSD profits are higher. Why. Because people who use linux are cheap,
^^^^2^^^^
> and buy the least expensive boards and are on the low end. The freebsd
> people buy higher end boards and more of them.
^^^^^^^^3^^^^^^^
Aren't 1 and 3 direct contradictions?
2. We'll assume either 1 or 3 is correct, but the complimentary insults are:
a. unprofessional -- goes w/o saying. Try harder?
b. kind of revealing -- this seems to be motivated more by a
genuine fear/contempt/or dislike of "Linux etc" than actual
marketing analysis.
c. totally beside the point
-- you sell low end products.
-- you sell high end products.
-- people buy low end products,
(because of their needs.)
--> this annoys you...
--> SOLUTION: don't sell low end products.
But don't come here and tell us we are cheap and smell funny, what
could that accomplish. Either you have a product we want or you
don't... you claim you don't, so what is your time invested here
getting you?
IMHO you should take out advice on what we want, decide whether or not you
want to provide it and leave it at that. Don't bop us on the head trying to
get us to want your product.
> Dennis
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