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Re: Thoughts on vger mailing list problems

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matti E Aarnio)
Mon Jan 15 07:47:10 1996

From: Matti E Aarnio <mea@mea.cc.utu.fi>
To: markgray@postoffice.ptd.net (Mark T. Gray)
Date: 	Mon, 15 Jan 1996 14:29:00 +0200 (EET)
Cc: linux-net@vger.rutgers.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.3.91.960115052928.158A-100000@ptd.net> from "Mark T. Gray" at Jan 15, 96 05:46:58 am

> I send this here mainly because it seems to be the only list that is 
> still working (odd that), but I've had some thoughts on several areas 
> that don't appear to be under consideration in resolving problems with 
> vger (judging only from the snippets of gossip I've picked up).

	Gossips, and rumors don't usually have facts behind them..

> 1. The problem could be further up the line.  I live only an hours drive 
> from Rutgers and my ISP started having major outgoing mail problems 
> around the same time that vger started going wrong this last time.  It 
> turned out to be a problem with one of the internet suppliers to my ISP 
> (MCI if I recall correctly)

	We have seen problems within Alternet that break connection
	in between NORDUnet, and Rutgers, MCI has been working ok.

> 2. The recent bitter flame wars on the comp.os.linux.* newsgroups could 
> well have incited some of the crackers using competing OS'es to take the vger
> down.  (Or Bill Gates may have gotten nervous about Linux and had it done
> (grin))

	Now people can't down it with email -- well, they can flood it,
	but not take down.  SunOS 4.1.3U1 can take it down though..
	There are a couple bugs in that system that can cause TCP
	connection to crash whole machine, but system mailer won't
	choke at the reboot.  (Also VGER's SMD-disks give trouble,
	but that is yet another story.)

> The loss of the gcc-digest and kernel-digest is really quite a blow to Linux
> in my opinion -- without my morning "progress fix" I don't really feel quite
> so confident that some of the problems remaining (minor and self fixable as
> they may be given the availability of source code) are being worked on.

	They are flowing now, but perhaps you were kicked off of them
	for some reason ?

/Matti Aarnio <mea@utu.fi>  (Tuning vger.rutgers.edu's ZMailer for speed)


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