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Re: when problems happen

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Snow Cat)
Tue Jan 16 22:54:23 1996

From: Snow Cat <snowcat@math.CSUFresno.EDU>
To: davem@caip.rutgers.edu (David S. Miller)
Date: 	Tue, 16 Jan 1996 10:46:10 -0800 (PST)
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, vger-helpers@vger.rutgers.edu,
        linux-announce@vger.rutgers.edu
In-Reply-To: <199601152328.SAA13174@huahaga.rutgers.edu> from "David S. Miller" at Jan 15, 96 06:28:50 pm

David S. Miller once wrote:
> 
>    Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 14:59:57 PST
>    From: "Marty Leisner" <leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com>
> 
>    How hard would it be the gateway the lists to news?
> 
> ??? They already are.  As for being dropped from the lists, I have to
> punt anyone who causes multiple bounces.  So for instance if your site
> had mail down for a day or two at the right times, I'd get a few
> bounce messages from vgers mailer daemon, and I will punt you from the
> lists.
> 
> I apologize, but this is my only choice I do have, as bounced
> addresses *are* what slows down the mail queue on vger.
> 
> If you find that you are being removed frequently from the lists, it
> is *your* responsibility to find out why and deal with it yourself,
> not mine at all.  I offer the *free service* of running the linux
> mailing lists on vger.  I do this in my non-existant *spare* time
> (which is BS because I spend *all* my time on vger on certain really
> heavy days).  By subscribing to the lists you are taking a *risk*, and
> implicit in that *risk* of subscribing is:
> 

I would nevertheless welcome some advise about how to DEAL with it. :)
Does it mean that if someone turns off math.CSUFresno.EDU for a weakend
all 1000+ users will be kicked off any lists they happened to subscribe to?

Should I have a cron job that sends a subscribe request every two weeks? But
then won't it be even worse for vger?

I am sure that if you asked, those of us with worst problem can come up with
the shell script to scan through 2000+ messages and first temporary "ground"
sites that cause bounces for one week. If the same machine is grounded 3 times
in a row, it's users can certainly be dropped. This would also reduce number
of messages that you have to read by hand.

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