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Re: when problems happen

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David S. Miller)
Tue Jan 16 01:08:15 1996

Date: 	Mon, 15 Jan 1996 18:28:50 -0500
From: "David S. Miller" <davem@caip.rutgers.edu>
To: leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com
CC: linux-kernel@vger.rutgers.edu, vger-helpers@vger.rutgers.edu,
        linux-announce@vger.rutgers.edu
In-reply-to: <9601152300.AA02979@gnu.mc.xerox.com> (leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com)

   Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 14:59:57 PST
   From: "Marty Leisner" <leisner@sdsp.mc.xerox.com>

   How hard would it be the gateway the lists to news?

??? They already are.  As for being dropped from the lists, I have to
punt anyone who causes multiple bounces.  So for instance if your site
had mail down for a day or two at the right times, I'd get a few
bounce messages from vgers mailer daemon, and I will punt you from the
lists.

I apologize, but this is my only choice I do have, as bounced
addresses *are* what slows down the mail queue on vger.

If you find that you are being removed frequently from the lists, it
is *your* responsibility to find out why and deal with it yourself,
not mine at all.  I offer the *free service* of running the linux
mailing lists on vger.  I do this in my non-existant *spare* time
(which is BS because I spend *all* my time on vger on certain really
heavy days).  By subscribing to the lists you are taking a *risk*, and
implicit in that *risk* of subscribing is:

a) vger can and may malfunction and spam your mailbox as it does mine,
   welcome to the internet.  Computer suck, period, live with it.
b) it may be a pain in the neck to unsubscribe, c'est la vie...
c) the connection betwen vger and/or exploder vger uses for your
   domain may not be so hot, and this can't be controlled even if I
   *wanted* to exert the extra effort to fix such things...

Frequently I get mails like "STOP SENDING ALL THIS MAIL, IT IS TO MUCH
AND I PAY A LOT FOR MY EMAIL"  To this I say tough sh*t, you joined
the list, again a *free* service done out of my good graces, and you
should have investigated ahead of time or not taken the implicit *risk*
involved entirely if this would cause so much havoc for you.

If anyone can come up with a better policy for me to use while
scanning 2,000 or so mailer-damon mails in my mailbox everyday, I'll
happily ignore you unless your idea is for me to forward all of them
to your email box, or to delete them all ;) Even with elisp programs
to preprocess all my mailer daemon mail it still is a bitch because:

1) It's just plain a lot of mail to sift through
2) Vger isn't so snappy when firing up editors etc. and dealing
   with problems...

My mail reader swaps on a machine with 168mb of ram, and I'm the only
person who uses it...

Later,
David S. Miller
davem@caip.rutgers.edu


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