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daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Wed Aug 1 09:47:22 1990

Date: Wed, 1 Aug 90 09:47:00 -0400
From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" <jik@pit-manager.MIT.EDU>
To: bug-zephyr@ATHENA.MIT.EDU


----- Forwarded message
From: saeed@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
To: bugs@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject: vax 7.0F: zephyr
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 90 13:41:38 EDT

System name:		m14s-010
Type and version:	CVAXSTAR 7.0F (1 update(s) to same version)

I remember when I first started consulting, I was told about the dead
zephyr hostmanager problem occurring randomly and that no one knew
exactly why it would happen.  While reading the ozephyr logs I found 3
instances of dead hostmanagers within a day or so in the same cluster.
Here they are (they are ozephyr[2188,2189,2190]):

[2188] root@ATHENA.MIT.EDU  OLC-zephyr  07/23/90 13:18 (48 lines)
Subject: frog3: hostmanager not responding
Log Initiated for user Yves Dehnel (frog3@M14S-010-8.MIT.EDU [0]).
    [Mon 23-Jul-90 11:06am]

Topic:		other

Question:
For the last week or so, whenever I attach a directory or start a program, I get the message: "Error while subscribing: hostmanager not responding" or something similar. Whuzzit ?
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--- Unable to contact user frog3.  User logged out.
    [Mon 23-Jul-90 11:19am]
 
--- Question grabbed by consultant mitchell@COPILOT.MIT.EDU [1].
    [Mon 23-Jul-90 11:19am]
 
*** Mail from consultant mitchell@COPILOT.MIT.EDU [1].
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  1:18pm]
To: frog3@Athena.mit.edu
cc: 
Subject: Your OLC question about other
--------

Hi Yves.  You asked what the message:  "Error while subscribing:
hostmanager not responding" means.  This error sometimes happens on
Athena workstations when the zephyr hostmanager dies.  It shouldn't
happen to you again (at least, not anytime soon).  I'll report it to
hotline so they can go start it up again.  Thanks for the report!

--Mike Mitchell
  Athena Consultant

--- Unable to contact user frog3.  User logged out.
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  1:18pm]
 
--- Topic changed from 'other' to 'zephyr' by consultant mitchell.
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  1:18pm]
 
--- Resolved by mitchell@COPILOT.MIT.EDU.
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  1:18pm]
 
--- Unable to contact user frog3.  User logged out.
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  1:18pm]
 
--- Conversation terminated at Mon 23-Jul-90  1:18pm

--- Title: hostmanager not responding
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[2189] root@ATHENA.MIT.EDU  OLC-zephyr  07/23/90 15:56 (92 lines)
Subject: asharris: SA hostmanager not responding
Log Initiated for user Amani Sunday Harrison (asharris@M14S-010-1.MIT.EDU [0]).
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:26pm]

Topic:		workstations

Question:
What is the deal? My console says that my hostmanager is not 
responding. What does that mean? 
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--- Question grabbed by consultant jik@PIT-MANAGER.MIT.EDU [4].
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:28pm]
 
--- Topic changed from 'workstations' to 'zephyr' by consultant jik.
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:28pm]
 
*** Reply from consultant jik@PIT-MANAGER.MIT.EDU [4].
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:29pm]

error:

     main.c: Hostmanager not responding Setting Location
     zctl (load): Hostmanager not responding: while subscribing
     /etc/athena/zinit: Hostmanager not responding while subscribing

solution:

These three errors will appear while you are logging in and may be mixed
with some other normal status messages. The common theme here is that your
hostmanager is not alive. To remedy the situation you will need root access
on your workstation. There's no problem if you are in a public cluster. If
not, then contact the person who maintains the workstation.

        athena% cd /etc/athena
        athena% su                        become super-user
        Password: mrroot                  enter the password
        athena# zhm &                     start new host manager
        athena# exit                      exit from the root shell
        athena% zctl load                 reload subscriptions
	


--- User asharris read reply.
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:29pm]
 
*** Reply from user asharris@M14S-010-1.MIT.EDU [0].
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:33pm]
These are not the exact messages on my screen.
Will the instructions you sent me work for the following:
zwgc: Hostmanager not responding while setting location
zwgc: Hostmanager not responding while subscribing
Error while subscribing: Hostmanager not responding
znol: Hostmanager ot responding locating user
?

*** Reply from consultant jik@PIT-MANAGER.MIT.EDU [4].
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:34pm]
Yes.

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    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:34pm]
 
*** Reply from user asharris@M14S-010-1.MIT.EDU [0].
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:36pm]
Thank you very much.

--- User asharris is done with question.
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:37pm]
 
*** Reply from user asharris@M14S-010-1.MIT.EDU [0].
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:42pm]
I initiated talk. How do I get out of it?

*** Reply from consultant jik@PIT-MANAGER.MIT.EDU [4].
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:47pm]
You should be able to stop it by hitting ^C.

--- User asharris read reply.
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:48pm]
 
*** Reply from user asharris@M14S-010-1.MIT.EDU [0].
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:49pm]
okay that is what i thought thanks

--- Resolved by jik@PIT-MANAGER.MIT.EDU.
    [Mon 23-Jul-90  3:56pm]
 
--- Conversation terminated at Mon 23-Jul-90  3:56pm

--- Title: SA hostmanager not responding
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[2190] root@ATHENA.MIT.EDU  OLC-zephyr  07/24/90 16:02 (70 lines)
Subject: bexley: SA hostmanager
Log Initiated for user Jeffrey A. Meyer (bexley@M14S-010-8.MIT.EDU [0]).
    [Tue 24-Jul-90  3:28pm]

Topic:		other

Question:
I keep getting a <<Hostmanager not responding>> error --
what can i do to fix this???
-jeff
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--- Question grabbed by consultant kevles@CALIBAN.MIT.EDU [1].
    [Tue 24-Jul-90  3:29pm]
 
*** Reply from consultant kevles@CALIBAN.MIT.EDU [1].
    [Tue 24-Jul-90  3:30pm]
One moment while I get our stock answr on this for you.  It's not a serioius
problem ...

*** Reply from consultant kevles@CALIBAN.MIT.EDU [1].
    [Tue 24-Jul-90  3:30pm]

error:

     main.c: Hostmanager not responding Setting Location
     zctl (load): Hostmanager not responding: while subscribing
     /etc/athena/zinit: Hostmanager not responding while subscribing

solution:

These three errors will appear while you are logging in and may be mixed
with some other normal status messages. The common theme here is that your
hostmanager is not alive. To remedy the situation you will need root access
on your workstation. There's no problem if you are in a public cluster. If
not, then contact the person who maintains the workstation.

        athena% cd /etc/athena
        athena% su                        become super-user
        Password: mrroot                  enter the password
        athena# zhm &                     start new host manager
        athena# exit                      exit from the root shell
        athena% zctl load                 reload subscriptions
	


*** Reply from consultant kevles@CALIBAN.MIT.EDU [1].
    [Tue 24-Jul-90  3:30pm]
If you have futher questions, pleas ask. If not, please type "done" at
your olc prmpt.

than,s.
--Beth

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    [Tue 24-Jul-90  4:00pm]
 
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    [Tue 24-Jul-90  4:01pm]
 
--- Topic changed from 'other' to 'zephyr' by consultant kevles.
    [Tue 24-Jul-90  4:02pm]
 
--- Resolved by kevles@CALIBAN.MIT.EDU.
    [Tue 24-Jul-90  4:02pm]
 
--- Conversation terminated at Tue 24-Jul-90  4:02pm

--- Title: SA hostmanager
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I thought this might interest anybody who wants to get rid of this bug
(if that's what it is).  If the problem has already been diagnosed, I
apologize for the length of this message and I hope it helps in some way
anyhow.  Thanks.

saeed jaffer
project athena consultant
saeed@athena.mit.edu

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