[65] in DCNS Development
Filesystem Reorganization for release 7.3
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Wed Jul 10 22:31:31 1991
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 91 19:29:06 -0700
From: "Jonathan I. Kamens" <jik@cats.UCSC.EDU>
To: akajerry@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Cc: wdc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU, basch@MIT.EDU, developers@MIT.EDU, release-73@MIT.EDU,
In-Reply-To: akajerry@ATHENA.MIT.EDU's message of Tue, 9 Jul 91 13:51:31 -0400 <9107091751.AA14378@ix>
From: akajerry@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 91 13:51:31 -0400
This arguement that user's are expecting /usr/sipb is a little weak.
First off I'ld like somebody to produce all this user documentations
that references /usr/sipb.
pit-manager% cd /usr/sipb/doc
pit-manager% find . -type f -print | /usr/local/xargs grep -l 'usr.*sipb'
./discuss.mss
./guide/README
./guide/discuss.tex
./guide/emacs-el.tex
./guide/emacs.tex
./guide/rrn.tex
./guide/sipb.tex
./guide/xpix.tex
./tex-thesis-doc.tex
pit-manager% cd /mit/logos/olh
pit-manager% find . -type f -print | /usr/local/xargs grep -l 'usr.*sipb'
./Archives/athenadoc/.release6.3B.PS
./Fall91/DOC/base_doc
./Fall91/DOC/unix
./System_News/release_notes/6.3/dotfiles_converting.1
./System_News/release_notes/6.3/dotfiles_converting.olh
./System_News/release_notes/SF89/63_dotfiles_converting
./System_News/release_notes/SF89/63_dotfiles_new
./System_News/release_notes/SF89/abl.draft
./Text_Processing/latex/Documents/Report/advance.tex
./Text_Processing/latex/Documents/Report/main.tty
./Text_Processing/latex/Documents/Local/local.tex
./Text_Processing/latex/adv_code.olh
./Text_Processing/latex/loc_index.olh
pit-manager% cd /mit/olc-stock/stock_answers
pit-manager% find . -type f -print | /usr/local/xargs grep -l 'usr.*sipb'
./other/other_rrn
./printing/printing_mac
./latex/latex_sourcecode
Also, in my time as a User consultant, I
never saw any user's dotfiles that referenced /usr/sipb, and I've seen
more than my share of user dotfiles.
No offense, Jerry, but I've been a consultant for longer than you
have, and I've answered more questions than you have, and I *have*
seen dotfiles that reference /usr/sipb. A quick check:
pit-manager% cd /afs/athena/user
pit-manager% foreach toplevel (?)
? foreach user ($toplevel/*)
? grep -l /usr/sipb $user/.??*
? end
? end
a/acevedo/.environment
a/amgreene/.Emacs
a/amgreene/.cshrc
a/amgreene/.dotex
a/amgreene/.emacs
b/bjaspan/.cshrc
c/cfields/.path
c/chariot/.cshrc
d/dimitri/.environment.login
d/dimitri/.environment.xsession
d/djf/.environment
d/dkk/.environment
d/dkung/.xinitrc
d/dougie/.cshrc
d/dougie/.profile.inc
d/dpeisach/.alias
d/drlcs/.Xresources
d/drlcs/.twmrc
d/dschmidt/.environment
d/dskern/.environment
e/eichin/.aliases
e/eichin/.login
e/eichin/.setpath
e/epeisach/.cshrc.ws
e/epeisach/.environment
g/garner/.environment
g/garner/.path
i/ilham/.environment
j/jefft/.environment
j/jik/.emacs
j/jik/.environment
j/jik/.path
j/jnrees/.environment
k/kcmcmaho/.cshrc.path
k/kkkken/.emacs
k/krishna/.emacs.el
k/krishna/.environment
k/krishna/.keeplogin
k/krishna/.sm
k/krishna/.xsession
k/krishna/.xsh
k/kzolot/.cshrc.mine
l/lavin/.environment
l/lavin/.path
l/lotus/.environment
m/marc/.emacs
m/marc/.environment
m/marc/.sm
m/mberrie/.environment
m/mberrie/.path
m/monkey/.environment
m/monkey/.path
m/mukul/.environment
n/nswarup/.mwmrc
o/opus/.login
o/opus/.xsession
p/paulj/.environment
p/paulj/.path
pit-manager% cd /talos/u1/lockers
pit-manager% foreach dir (*)
? grep -l /usr/sipb $dir/.??*
? end
ahmed/.path
asharris/.path
axeface/.environment
axeface/.path
bradedel/.path
chicks/.d_path
dmatic/.doublerc
dmatic/.path
dmatic/.singlerc
dmatic/.xinitrc
dskld/.aliases
dskld/.path
flash/.cshrc
fxzane/.emacs
jcbourne/.emacs
jcbourne/.environment
jmaessen/.environment
jmaessen/.path
jsod/.environment
jsod/.oldenvironment
jsod/.path
leekil/.path
lward/.path
montreal/.environment
mouse/.cshrc
norm/.cshrc.mine
norm/.environment
phoibe/.path
rui/.cshrc.mine
rui/.login.mine
tazman/.cshrc.mine
tldavis/.environment
tophe/.cshrc.mine
tophe/.sipb
pit-manager% cd /talos/u3/lockers
pit-manager% foreach dir (*)
? grep -l /usr/sipb $dir/.??*
? end
amdehon/.aliases
asj/.login
brennang/.xinit2
brennang/.xinitrc
cbsmith/.twmrc.src
grumpy/.environment
jeannie/.environment
jkkirkpa/.path
reuven/.path
sanjay/.environment
sanjay/.path
tsmaster/.mwmrc
pit-manager% cd /talos/u4/lockers
pit-manager% foreach dir (*)
? grep -l /usr/sipb $dir/.??*
? end
bintulu/.startup.X
cordelia/.emacs
deevans/.csrhc.mine
deevans/.xinitrc
hackeron/.aliases
hackeron/.environment
hackeron/.path
hoyt/.path
memetral/.twmrc
pcg/.cshrc.mine
phils/.login
sabine/.cshrc
sjmiller/.environment
vonnegut/.path
walid/.environment
That's just from AFS and talos, and that's just the people whose
directories and dotfiles I can read. I'm sure there are more.
Finally, I've never heard of a
Consultant ever telling a user to use /usr/sipb.
Well, I spent over two years reading OLC logs in virtually every
category, and I know of a *lot* of consultants telling users to use
/usr/sipb. In fact, I personally told people to use /usr/sipb many
times, and I personally corrected consultants many times for referring
to /mit/sipb when they should have referred to /usr/sipb. We (the
SIPB) chose to use /usr/sipb, and Athena allowed us to stick with that
choice by giving us the /usr/sipb link, which made "/usr/sipb" right
and "/mit/sipb" wrong.
jik
