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[cec@MIT.EDU (Cecilia d'Oliveira): ["Hal Abelson"

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jon A. Rochlis)
Fri Oct 16 18:51:49 1992

Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:42:52
From: jon@MIT.EDU (Jon A. Rochlis)
To: developers@MIT.EDU, jon-dist@MIT.EDU


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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:02:44 -0400
From: "Hal Abelson" <hal@martigny.ai.mit.edu>
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Subject: In case you haven't seen this.  Please forward.
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Address: MIT AI Lab, NE43-409, 545 Technology Square, Cambridge, MA 02139
Phone: (617) 253-5856   Fax: (617) 258-8682



                            DATE:  Thursday, October 22, 1992

                            TIME:  Refreshments at 2:00 pm
                            Talk at 2:15 pm

                            PLACE:  Room NE43-518




                                War Stories from Andrew

                                   James H. Morris
                             Professor of Computer Science
                              Carnegie Mellon University


                                      Abstract

The Andrew Project was Carnegie Mellon's version of Project Athena.
I was its first director.The project started in 1982 and grew to about
30 people. Eight were IBMers, ten or so were newly-minted Ph.D.s of
Computer Science. We built Andrew, partially in the model of the Xerox
Alto system. It achieved some real successes but didn't accomplish all
that we'd hoped. Much of the problem was intrinsic to the way the world
is, compared to how we thought it was. I often meet people who still
have some of my 1982 misperceptions.

I will reconsider some of the early, crucial decisions of the Andrew
project related to wiring, protocols, workstations, file systems, and
software. I'll assess the impact of Andrew on education and discuss
what IBM and Carnegie Mellon ultimately got out of it. I will argue that
UNIX, the Macintosh, and Electronic Mail will not survive to the next
century. 

Finally, I'll offer eight opinions that computer scientists who venture 
into
the real world should consider:
        1. Slowness Kills.
        2. Big, integrated systems lose.
        3. Virtual << Real.
        4. Programmer productivity is not so important.
        5. Technology transfer rarely works.
        6. Engineers don't buy; they log roll.
        7. Industrial funding is difficult.
        8. 2nd System < 1st System < 3rd System.


HOST:  Prof. Jeannette Wing



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