[41702] in Cypherpunks

home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post

Re: Anonymity: A Modest Proposal

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (t byfield)
Wed Oct 18 12:08:01 1995

Date: Wed, 18 Oct 1995 12:03:50 -0400 (EDT)
To: Hal <hfinney@shell.portal.com>
From: tbyfield@panix.com (t byfield)
Cc: cypherpunks@toad.com

At 6:53 AM 10/18/95, Hal wrote:

>Now, since I have set it up this way, which was about two years ago, I
>have not received a single complaint about operating the remailer at
>alumni.caltech.edu.  Nobody sends me mail saying "your system is
>accepting objectionable messages."  Instead, all the complaints I get are
>about the Portal remailer (averaging one per week, probably).  People
>complain when they receive a message or newsgroup posting that they find
>objectionable.  They don't care if some system is accepting messages.
>They care about the system which is sending them.
>
>This has always been the weak link in the remailer system: the last
>remailer in the chain takes the political and legal heat.  If there is
>ever a libel or copyright infringement suit, or criminal prosecution,
>against a remailer it will almost certainly be against the last remailer
>in the chain.  Those are the source of the complaints and those are the
>ones which people try to shut down.

        Well, when some folks want to circumvent this kind of last-link
accountability (even if they are the _only_ link), they simply forge their
headers--so why not incorporate that tactic into the remailer net?

        Also, maybe apropos...It seems to me that there should be a way,
within the remailer net, to synthesize forged-path strings with the "Human
ID through insecure channel" remarks you made a few days ago.

Ted



home help back first fref pref prev next nref lref last post