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Re: Cpunks history & the inet-one.com archive (it's incomplete) (fwd)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jim Choate)
Wed Aug 18 03:16:52 1999

From: Jim Choate <ravage@einstein.ssz.com>
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Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1999 02:06:32 -0500 (CDT)
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> Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 22:44:07 -0700
> From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
> Subject: CDR: Re: Cpunks history & the inet-one.com archive (it's incomplete)

> No, it _isn't_ "anyone's guess/claim."

> Some of us were there, as participants, and have all the relevant traffic
> on our hard disks. And more importantly, vividly in our memories.

Put up or shut up Tim. You claimed just yesterday that no notice of
termination of the toad.com list was sent. Clearly you were wrong on that
point. Why should we take your word any further than we can throw it? We
shouldn't. You would do well to take your own advice and actualy read some
of your own posts from say '96.

> Look, Jim, I know you pride yourself on having idiosyncratic theories about
> physics, electronics, politics, and even history. But, really, the history
> of the whole Gilmore/Sandfort thing has been rehashed so many times over
> the past several years that for you not to know what happened means either
> you were not reading posts other than your own or that your memory is so
> porous as to be useless.

Past several years? It's only just barely two years old. Speaking of porous.
If you'd actualy go back and look at the archives (as I spent several hours
doing today) you'd find that in fact it hasn't been discussed to any great
degree at all. As a matter of fact the VAST majority of the relevant time
period is simply missing from the current archive.

> Just today Lucky Green gave you a capsule summary of how it was that the
> list came to be moderated. John Young offered similar comments.

Actualy neither did any such thing. Go back and read what they wrote. It is
worthless. Vitriole, pure and simple.

> Reality is what it is.

Groan. Such stupid statments.

> Had you saved the list traffic as many of us do, you'd have your own archives.

That's funny. If you've got archives of the relevant period please be so
kind as to forward your supposedly non-existant toad termination notice. As
suggested by another list member, it's around Jan. or Feb. '97. Should be a
real no-brainer for you...

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