[107519] in Cypherpunks
Re: Suggestion for Public Echelon counter-measures
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ernest Hua)
Fri Jan 15 13:39:02 1999
From: "Ernest Hua" <hua@teralogic-inc.com>
To: "Dutra de Lacerda" <dulac@ip.pt>, "Ian Briggs" <ian@deepwell.com>
Cc: <cypherpunks-unedited@toad.com>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:16:30 -0800
Reply-To: "Ernest Hua" <hua@teralogic-inc.com>
>The rest of the argument, although probably true in fact, is basically just
>one big slippery slope.
>No one knows, nor has there been any good proof (or at least a couple
>hints that the US government's)
>echelon system monitors and USES the private corporate sectors information.
>
>The government could get most corporate secrets simply by looking them up
>in the patent application database.
>That would be much easier that actually piecing together a couple dozen
>conversations and reassembling them into
>a linear piece of useful information, assuming that any one conversation
>would flow linearly, that the person has 100% of
>the information, that at least a useable amount of information is
>communicated outside the company or in a manner that
>Echelon can intercept, assuming that the technology or information is in
>ANY way valuable to the US government's, assuming...
The original accusation was that big pending
business deals were monitored, and a company
in the listener's country was given the
information to allow a competative advantage
in the bidding or negotiation process.
One could credibly argue that this does not
always guarantee success, however, the extra
information is very useful when one side or
one party knows the decision process intimately.
Oh ... yes ... I'm SURE the NSA will let you
go into their archives and "document" all of
this ... 8-)
Ern
