[107218] in Cypherpunks
Re: Bernie Baby
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rabid Wombat)
Tue Jan 5 20:50:35 1999
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 20:42:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Rabid Wombat <wombat@mcfeely.bsfs.org>
To: "Paul H. Merrill" <PaulMerrill@acm.org>
cc: Sunder <sunder@brainlink.com>, cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
In-Reply-To: <3692B7BB.C6A58819@ACM.Org>
Reply-To: Rabid Wombat <wombat@mcfeely.bsfs.org>
See:
http://www.ontrack.com/
They have "some do-it-yourself" software - used this a while back to
recover someone's data for them.
They also do recoveries - used this service as well. It is expensive. I
prefer backups, but a lot of people show up at my door with crashed HDs,
looking sheepish.
we return you now to your regular cesspit ...
such as http://www.realhamster.com/
;)
On Tue, 5 Jan 1999, Paul H. Merrill wrote:
> Aye, and that is the sort of thing that I meant when I asserted its
> validity as a topic and by " 'meaningful' results".
>
> PHM
>
> Sunder wrote:
> >
> > Not if you use an encryptor that stores information about the file to which a
> > block belongs to and the block number. Sure, you lose some of the bytes for
> > each block, but it's safer.
> >
> > i.e. have the fist 12 bytes of each sector contain:
> > [4] inode number
> > [4] this is block number
> > [4] timestamp (incase multiple copies are found.)
> >
> > That way the recovery dude only has to look at the first 12 bytes to link the
> > files together. Of course you must have some way of dealing with empty
> > sectors, possibly zapping the 1st 12 bytes so that the recovery dude doesn't
> > charge you for recovering empty space.
> >
> > "Paul H. Merrill" wrote:
> > >
> > > Anonymous wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >>>>> Bloody Gorefest <wrath@eudoramail.com> writes:
> > > >
> > > > > We are here to discuss crypto and security related stuff, if you
> > > > > don't know that yet. Here, we aren't even REMOTELY related to SCSI
> > > > > disk failures and hardware problems.
> > > >
> > > > ROTFL!
> > > >
> > > > And C'punk's usual discussion topics -- firearms, compulsory school,
> > > > Jeffersonian politics, automotive flame throwers, warmed-over
> > > > Microsoft jokes, Clinton's cigar, baby names, and porn sites -- are
> > > > *more* relevant than SCSI HD failures?!
> > > >
> > > > Give me a break.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > CesspoolMonger
> > >
> > > On top of which, cryptography and its effects on disk recovery is a real
> > > issue. On the one hand, if the disk needs to be sent out for recovery
> > > there are the issues regarding Some Stranger being paid to root through
> > > your bits and bytes barefoot. On the other hand, having "meaningful"
> > > results to find when said Stranger is recovering those bits and bytes
> > > makes his work simpler.
> > >
> > > PHM
> >
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