[107169] in Cypherpunks
Re: Y2K like things...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Motyka)
Mon Jan 4 15:58:56 1999
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 12:47:19 -0800
From: Michael Motyka <mmotyka@lsil.com>
To: cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
Reply-To: Michael Motyka <mmotyka@lsil.com>
> I turned on the oven and left its door open.
>
> (I wasn't worried about running out of oxygen as much as freezing
> at that point.)
>
You weren't at all worried about CO? It takes a while to free up your
haemoglobin once it's attached to a CO...I don't recall the time
constant.
> Now how the hell does one store enough water for a month or two?
>
Drinking water is easy - 15 or 20 1 gal jugs/month is probably OK
depending on climate.
Such extravagances as washing are another matter, still, you should be
able to stay presentable with a couple of gallons a day. Pound your
clothes on the rocks down by the river.
Get a pool - 20K gallons will do you for quite a while. Plus, if the
Road Warrior/Boy and His Dog Y2K scenario doesn't come to pass they're
still great on a hot summer day.
> Anyone know enough about boilers to say how many amps/watts/volts
> your average boiler needs?
>
For non-mansions:
Oil burner - around 1/2 - 3/4 HP
Gas burner - less than 100W - it's little more than a solenoid.
Forced air fan - 3/4 - 2 HP
Baseboard HW circulator - 100 - 200 W
110v or 220v - I can't remember now. Either way, pretty standard.
I think 1 HP is 746 watts.
> Can generators run them?
>
From a wattage standpoint - no problem. I don't know about motors as
loads. You may have to derate the capacity a bit *and* account for
startup currents. I think that's one of the issues with running
refrigeration compressors off small generators.
> I suppose in a pinch you could wire a voltage inverter to your car
> and get a few watts at 110vac, but I'm not sure if it will be
> sufficient for a boiler...
>
Not likely. Find an old VW gas heater. They're basically a tiny furnace
that runs off 12V and would probably warm one well-insulated room. The
heated air is *separate* from the combustion flow.
Store some firewood in your garage.
Anyone taking bets on the nature of the Y2K computer fuckup? Worldwide
depression and leather-clad cannibals roaming the wastelands or some
inconvenient glitches?
Mike
