[107167] in Cypherpunks
Re: Y2K like things...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Declan McCullagh)
Mon Jan 4 15:31:03 1999
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 14:58:42 -0500
To: Sunder <sunder@brainlink.com>, cypherpunks@algebra.com
From: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
In-Reply-To: <3690FA28.45036CF2@brainlink.com>
Reply-To: Declan McCullagh <declan@well.com>
These questions have been addressed for years on survivalist/preparedness
newsgroups and discussion groups, which are probably the best places for
this discussion.
That said: check out www.watertanks.com. For $89, you can get a waterbag
that will store 200 gallons. That's enough for over half a year at one
gallon/pp/day if you use it frugally. Budget more for washing -- though
that water doesn't have to be the same quality. You will need some way to
heat it, perhaps a propane or kerosene heater.
If you're that spooked, though, just move to a country place with a well,
wood stove, and septic tank.
-Declan
At 12:28 PM 1-4-99 -0500, Sunder wrote:
>Now how the hell does one store enough water for a month or two? I suppose
>if you live in a house that has an oil boiler, you're likely to have a large
>oil tank, so that solves that. You'll now need a secondary source of
>electricity to run your boiler, a generator solves that, especially if you
>find one that runs on the same oil as your boiler. Having sleeping bags will
>likely take care of the issue of having to use up all your oil, candles can
>take care of the need for light, etc...
>
>Anyone know enough about boilers to say how many amps/watts/volts your
>average boiler needs? Can generators run them? I suppose in a pinch you
>could wire a voltage inverter to your car and get a few watts at 110vac, but
>I'm not sure if it will be sufficient for a boiler...
>
>That leaves the question of storage space for both food and water; food is
>the easier of the two to store, water is very bulky and heavy, so that
>remains to be solved...
>
>There was also the question of human waste, trash, and such, but that has
>already been addressed on this list.