[107166] in Cypherpunks
Re: Y2K like things...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim May)
Mon Jan 4 14:26:51 1999
In-Reply-To: <3690FA28.45036CF2@brainlink.com>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:01:37 -0800
To: Sunder <sunder@brainlink.com>, cypherpunks@Algebra.COM
From: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
Reply-To: Tim May <tcmay@got.net>
At 9:28 AM -0800 1/4/99, Sunder wrote:
>Now how the hell does one store enough water for a month or two? I suppose
>if you live in a house that has an oil boiler, you're likely to have a large
>oil tank, so that solves that. You'll now need a secondary source of
>electricity to run your boiler, a generator solves that, especially if you
>find one that runs on the same oil as your boiler. Having sleeping bags will
>likely take care of the issue of having to use up all your oil, candles can
>take care of the need for light, etc...
>
>Anyone know enough about boilers to say how many amps/watts/volts your
>average boiler needs? Can generators run them? I suppose in a pinch you
>could wire a voltage inverter to your car and get a few watts at 110vac, but
>I'm not sure if it will be sufficient for a boiler...
>
>That leaves the question of storage space for both food and water; food is
>the easier of the two to store, water is very bulky and heavy, so that
>remains to be solved...
>
>There was also the question of human waste, trash, and such, but that has
>already been addressed on this list.
There are many other fora which discuss these issues exhaustively. I do
most of my writing these days in comp.software.year-2000 and
misc.survivalism.
Water storage is often discussed. I have a well, but also I have 2
200-gallon water bags (from www.watertanks.com) and 6 55-gallon barrels.
What apartment dwellers should have is a matter for careful thought. If one
has warning of an outage (e.g, in the days before December 31st), one can
fill bags and barrels.
Energy and heat are, like water, topics which require a lot more discussion.
I don't think Cypherpunks is a good place to recap these discussions, so I
won't. Use Dejanews to find thousands of articles.
--Tim May
We would go to their homes, and we'd kill their wives and
their children. We would kill their families
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