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Re: What ho mailq bug?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathon Weiss)
Fri Jan 24 03:29:37 1997

From: Jonathon Weiss <jweiss@MIT.EDU>
To: Mike Barker <mbarker@MIT.EDU>
Cc: Bill Cattey <wdc@MIT.EDU>, release-team@MIT.EDU
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 22 Jan 1997 23:09:13 EST."
             <199701230409.EAA26443@megara.MIT.EDU> 
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 03:29:30 EST

> Second, while I have heard all kinds of anecdotal evidence, I still don't
> really know the proportions or magnitude of the problem.  Are most
> Sun workstations holding mail?  A few?  Even your notice seems vague
> as to just how prevalent this problem is.  This is one of the reasons
> that it is alarming, rather than helpful.

I believe that this is happening enough to be noticed, but not enough
that it is very likely to affect any given user.

> Third, I don't think we like to recommend that casual users reboot the
> workstations.  Perhaps we could come up with a less drastic solution?

I think telling users to reboot is easier that telling them how figure
out whether it is safe to remove a given lock file and how to do so
and then force the queue.  If you really want a way to do this until
we get the patch out, I would suggest taking the command I sent
(without the desync) and putting it and /usr/lib/sendmail -q in a
script and telling users to run that as root.  Of course this still
has the one day delay problem.  Also if we tell people how to boot
machines we should teach them the right way (ie, not stop-a).

> Fourth, I believe we will be improving the situation this summer, with
> the transition to Solaris 2.5.1 and sendmail8.  We are pushing for early
> summer release of the Sun release.  It may not be worthwhile alarming
> people without also suggesting that this is a temporary problem which
> is expected to disappear in the near future.

If you're going to send Mike mail you probably want to mention the
kluge we are planning on installing.

	Jonathon


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