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Re: dialup churn in process

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark W. Manley)
Wed Dec 30 12:32:38 2009

Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:32:29 -0500 (EST)
From: "Mark W. Manley" <mmanley@MIT.EDU>
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Answers below.

On Wed, 30 Dec 2009, Jonathan Reed wrote:
> I'm fine with a linux.dialup.mit.edu pool, provided the MOTD sufficiently 
> explains the difference (and has sufficiently different formatting compared 
> to the current one such that users won't just skim over it).

Totes.

>
> Can you give an approximate date for this (for planning purposes), since I'll 
> need to make sure our docs are updated accordingly?

End of January.

>
> I assume we'll have a sun.dialup.mit.edu pool for explicit access to those?

That is a truth fact.

> I wonder if we need to think harder about outreach to the community or 
> something.  I don't know of a good way to do that.  Maybe update the current 
> dialup MOTDs now to at least make people aware of the upcoming transition? 
> I'm primarily concerned that we'll see a significant number of people who 
> gave up on Debathena for whatever reason and fellback to the dialups instead, 
> and now will be forced to actually report their problem.
>

I'll leave that to your collective user support wisdom.  My past 
experiences with these kinds of migrations is that you are correct and 
notthing, even a laser light show and full-on parade announcing the 
change, will get some users' attention.

-MM

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