[6582] in Release_7.7_team
Re: dialup churn in process
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathan Reed)
Wed Dec 30 12:18:38 2009
Cc: Oliver Thomas <othomas@mit.edu>, ops@mit.edu, release-team@mit.edu
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From: Jonathan Reed <jdreed@MIT.EDU>
To: "Mark W. Manley" <mmanley@mit.edu>
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> They can, however, wander into them by deliberately going to them
> directly or by going to the soon-to-exist linux.dialup name, which
> will run in parallel. If people deliberately go to these, I kinda
> feel like they can handle a Linux environment (I'll update their
> motd accordingly), but I can also nologin these as well after
> they're built. I have no real stake either way.
I'm fine with a linux.dialup.mit.edu pool, provided the MOTD
sufficiently explains the difference (and has sufficiently different
formatting compared to the current one such that users won't just skim
over it).
> Linux.dialup will run for some time in parallel while we get the
> other hypervisors in place. If, after a couple of weeks
Can you give an approximate date for this (for planning purposes),
since I'll need to make sure our docs are updated accordingly?
> there are no issues, we'll replace cvp, i90, and hotd with Linux
> counterparts, leaving the existing doa, bl5, and brym servers to
> remain for those wishing to continue using Suns until the demise of
> that platform.
I assume we'll have a sun.dialup.mit.edu pool for explicit access to
those?
> At that point, I'd like to switch athena.dialup to point to the
> Linux servers rather than the Suns.
I wonder if we need to think harder about outreach to the community or
something. I don't know of a good way to do that. Maybe update the
current dialup MOTDs now to at least make people aware of the upcoming
transition? I'm primarily concerned that we'll see a significant
number of people who gave up on Debathena for whatever reason and
fellback to the dialups instead, and now will be forced to actually
report their problem.
-Jon
