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Re: Outreach to multi-partition Sun users

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (t. belton)
Fri Dec 6 12:51:38 2002

Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:51:36 -0500 (EST)
From: "t. belton" <tbelton@MIT.EDU>
To: Bill Cattey <wdc@MIT.EDU>
cc: <release-team@MIT.EDU>
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Iphigenia has a fair amount of locally stored material. I exploit that
huge amount of leftover local disk space by keeping, for example, several
back versions of Mozilla there, test installs for new versions, etc etc.

So, yes, without a certain amount of lead time to move that stuff, it
would indeed "inconvenience" me if Athena were suddenly reinstalled as a
single partition.

Change of topic:

Without starting a big fight ... and recognizing that I wanted to be at
the meeting on Wednesday for this but couldn't make it ... I'm a little
curious about this announcement in a philosophy-of-life kind of way. If we
are trying to move more and more things local, aren't we removing the
whole point of having developed a massive, successful, distributed
computing system in the first place?


- Todd



On 5 Dec 2002, Bill Cattey wrote:

> I drafted a note to send to multi-partition Sun users.
> Garry produced a list of contacts from Greg's list of systems.
>
> Enclosed is the note I suggest we send, and the sorted list of
> owners and systems.
>
> We have 78 systems to deal with now that mine is re-installing.
>
> -wdc
>
> ---- Note to multi-partition Sun users ----
>
> About a year and a half ago, Athena installs on Suns changed from having
> separate root, usr, and var disk partitions to one single partition.
>
> Doing this enabled us to quit worrying whether installed software would
> overflow some arbitrary boundary.  With the advent of bigger disks, it
> is clear that there has been great value to bringing more and more
> software local and not worrying about needing to re-partition the disk.
>
> We would like to enable Athena Suns to run faster by bringing more
> software onto the local disk.  Now there are between 50 and 100
> systems in the field that have the old partitioning scheme.  Such
> systems, even if they had plenty of free disk space, would overflow one
> or more partitions.
>
> If we could get rid of the multi-partition systems, it would greatly
> simplify our release planning, and would enable us to make ambitious
> performance enhancements by bring a LOT of stuff local.  It would also
> enable us to change to a cleaner way of installing the Athena software
> on top of Solaris.
>
> But we would like to minimize inconvenience to customers.
>
> Our records show you as the contact person for the following
> multi-partition Suns:
>
> <list of systems>
>
> If any of these systems have no local data, we would like to re-install
> Athena on them.
>
> Are there systems listed where it would be an inconvenience to you if
> Athena were re-installed?
>
> How can we work with you to offer cleaner and faster Athena on Sun while
> minimizing your inconvenience?
>
> -William Cattey
> Athena UNIX Platform Team
>
> ---- List of contacts ----
>
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> davefoss,fletch1,eecs	eecs-ath-32
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> karen			thornton
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> lisanti			cwistopher
> maier			harold
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> mnargi			leicester
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> tbelton			iphigenia
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> wccf			hchinaski
> wccf			yoda-wccf
> yunpeng			mayon
> yunpeng			pelee
> zbt-admin		jiffy-express
>


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