[2933] in Release_7.7_team
Re: SSH version available on Athena systems.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jonathon Weiss)
Fri Sep 7 03:10:24 2001
Message-Id: <200109070710.DAA19461@bearing-an-hourglass.mit.edu>
From: Jonathon Weiss <jweiss@MIT.EDU>
To: Seth Hall <seth@speech.MIT.EDU>
cc: release-team@MIT.EDU
In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 Sep 2001 18:55:47 EDT."
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Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2001 03:10:20 -0400
> Unfortunately, your surmise was correct: it is the Athena-based server
> we need. We have many studentand faculty users using our systems who
> would like to use SSH to access their Athena mail, etc., and since we
> moved to SSH2 a couple of years ago, we don't really want to regress and
> reinstall SSH1 clients on all of our machines just to talk to Athena.
>
> While Kerberization may be a wonderful thing, the rest of the world
> has embraced other standards, and this makes it difficult for our users
> to communicate effectively (and securely) with Athena. Even if there was
> one Athena machine that MIT people could access using SSH2, to check
> their email and so forth, this would be a major improvement.
>
> Here's a thought: does Athena support any kind of Linux compatible
> communications client that we could install on our Linux systems that
> would provide secure communications with Athena machines, but which
> would not require Kerberizing our entire environment? As I recall, you
> had done something like this with Eudora perhaps. Such a utility would
> at least allow our users to access their Athena account via a secure
> encrypted stream, which is all that SSH provides really. What IAm afraid
> you will tell me is that yes, there is just such a solution, and it is
> SSH1 :-)
Hi Seth,
In general we prefer that you not drop the mailing list from the cc
line, since sometime oher members of the list will have useful
comments to contribute.
As you suggest, ssh v1 products are the recommended bridge to
non-kerkerized machines. that said, there may be a solution that
doesn't require you to install more software. If your users are not
using X applications (xmh, exmh, etc.) to read their mail and these
machines have a web browser that supports java we have a solution.
Try pointing your web prowser at http://athena.dialup.mit.edu which
will allow you to run mindterm, which is a java ssh (v1) client that
runs in your browser.
Does that solve your problem?
Jonathon
