[194219] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engineers
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mel Beckman)
Tue Mar 28 14:45:12 2017
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>
To: Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2017 18:45:04 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CY1PR13MB0645ADA0D87B96E7FC7D8EE1E4320@CY1PR13MB0645.namprd13.prod.outlook.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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No ISPs have any right to market our customers browsing history, and curren=
tly that practice is illegal unless the customer opts in. In my opinion, on=
ly a fool wants to relieve ISPs of this restriction.
The claim oft presented by people favoring this customer abuse is that the =
sold data is anonymous. But it's been well-established that very simple dat=
a aggregation techniques can develop signatures that reveal the identity of=
people in anonymized data.
-mel beckman
> On Mar 28, 2017, at 10:40 AM, Rod Beck <rod.beck@unitedcablecompany.com> =
wrote:
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> Last time I checked most European countries have stronger privacy protect=
ions than the US. Are they also idiots? Mr. Glass, would you care to respon=
d?
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> Regards,
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> Roderick.
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> ________________________________
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces@nanog.org> on behalf of Brett Glass <nanog@bre=
ttglass.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 1:13 AM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: EFF Call for sign-ons: ISPs, networking companies and engine=
ers opposed to FCC privacy repeal
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> All:
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> It's worth noting that most of EFF's list consists of individuals
> and/or politically connected organizations, not actual ISPs. This
> is for good reason. EFF was founded with the intention of creating
> a civil rights organization but has morphed into a captive
> corporate lobbying shop for Google, to which several of its board
> members have close financial ties. EFF opposes the interests of
> hard working ISPs and routinely denigrates them and attempts to
> foster promotes hatred of them. It also promotes and lobbies for
> regulations which advantage Google and disadvantage ISPs --
> including the so-called "broadband privacy" regulations, which
> heavily burden ISPs while exempting Google from all oversight.
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> No knowledgeable network professional or ISP would support the
> current FCC rules. Both they AND the FCC's illegal Title II
> classification of ISPs must be rolled back, restoring the FTC's
> ability to apply uniform and apolitical privacy standards to all of
> the players in the Internet ecosystem. The first step is to support
> S.J. Res 34/H.J. Res 86, the Congressional resolution which would
> revoke the current FCC regulations that were written and paid for
> by Google and its lobbyists. So, DO contact your legislators...
> but do so in support of the resolutions that will repeal the
> regulations. It is vital to the future of the Internet.
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> --Brett Glass, Owner and Founder, LARIAT.NET
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> At 05:05 PM 3/26/2017, Peter Eckersley wrote:
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>> Dear network operators,
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>> I'm sure this is a controversial topic in the NANOG community, but EFF a=
nd a
>> number of ISPs and networking companies are writing to Congress opposing=
the
>> repeal of the FCC's broadband privacy rules, which require explicit opt-=
in
>> consent before ISPs use or sell sensitive, non-anonymized data (includin=
g
>> non-anonymized locations and browsing histories).
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>> If you or your employer would like to sign on to such a letter, please r=
eply
>> off-list by midday Monday with your name, and a one-sentence description=
of
>> your affiliation and/or major career accomplishments.
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